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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    If a parent really cares they could just buy and install an internet filter that exists to block porn sites and porn images. I'm sure they could also further restrict by getting a program that only allows children to go to sites that they pre-approved.
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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    I don't have a problem with nudity. I do have a problem with obscenity. And since the LAW is on my side, that makes it YOUR problem, not mine. The OP is about enforcing current laws, not creating new laws. So once again, if you don't like the law, or think the Internet should be exempt, that's YOUR problem.
    Oh, I very much agree that the laws are ****e. They're ridiculous, subjective, and fly in the face of the first amendment. The laws themselves need to be repealed.

    I don't need the government to raise my kids. I do, however, unfortunately, needs laws to protect my kid from predators, perverts and sickos who think that anything and everything should be easily accessible on the Web.
    No, you don't need laws to protect your kids from internet content that YOU happen to find "perverted" or "sick". All you need is to be an attentive parent.

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    You think that parents who want to protect their kids from vile porn should have their kids taken away? Or that parents should watch their kids' activities every second of every day? Hey, I've got an idea. How about we lock up all the sicko perverts on the Internet and throw away the key? Problem solved.

    My kids' right not to be exposed to sick porn trumps so-called "free speech for furries."
    Here's how your kids can not be exposed to "sick porn".

    1. You teach them not to look at sick porn.
    2. They don't google for sick porn.
    3. They enter in sick porn urls
    4. They don't visit sites that would link to or pop up sick porn
    5. They don't play games or get involved in activites rated higher than their age appropriate range
    6. You use the child safety features in your OS
    7. You use the child safety features in your browser
    8. You use the child safety features in your security programs
    9. You buy a program dedicated to child safety features.
    10. You make rules that they can't use the computer alone.

    Oh look, a HUGE amount of ways for you to keep your kids safe from "Sick Porn" that DOESN'T infringe upon other peoples rights and simply requires YOU to actually do this amazing thing called PARENTING.

    Guess what, if you fail at taking advantage of multiple avenues of protection or fail to instill your kids with the proper attitude towards those things those are your fault not everyone elses. If your child decides to bypass security, ignore your rules, or reject your morality that is your problem not everyone elses.

    Until it is impossible to visit any sight on the internet without seeing porn and that there is no ability to put child locks on software your argument is null because YOUR desire to be lazy or a crappy parent doesn't give you the right to infringe upon others freedoms, as disgusting or vile as they may be.

    Could after ALL of that they still MAYBE get exposed to it? Sure. Your child could get hit by a car despite all the safety features and laws we have in place, should we remove cars? You could have your music playing inside a bulding with good insulation and without it being obscenely loud and there's still ways your child could potentially here curse words from it, should we ban music? Children at school could potentially tell a racist joke around your kids exposing them to it, should we ban children from speaking outside of class?

    No, your right to wrap your child in bubble wrap ends when you expect other peoples freedoms to be infringed upon it. Obscinity laws are based in part off of reasonability. Its reasonable not to expect Yahoo News! to have explicite uncensored pictures of two people eating another's dead body. Its reasonable to not expect the encyclopedia britanica to have a full length triple penetration porn. It is however completely UNREASONABLE to expect however that the ENTIRE internet is free and clear of ANYTHING that could possibly offend your precious little snow flake.

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thank you oh so much for making me look up Furries. I am going to need years of therapy to get over the damage you did to me with that reference...
    LOL Now I'm convinced I'm never going to google that
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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    You think that parents who want to protect their kids from vile porn should have their kids taken away? Or that parents should watch their kids' activities every second of every day? Hey, I've got an idea. How about we lock up all the sicko perverts on the Internet and throw away the key? Problem solved.

    My kids' right not to be exposed to sick porn trumps so-called "free speech for furries."
    Last time I checked freedom of speech was in the Constitution.

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Now I'm convinced I'm never going to google that
    I can NOT believe that so many folks don't know what furries are. And it's far from being repulsive or disgusting or gross. It's just... amusing. People dressing up in animal suits (furry) and uumm... role playing. I mean seriously, it's not exactly 2 girls 1 cup.

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Be advised I'm not reading your posts. The rights of pornographers to peddle their filth mean nothing to me. A simple age verification system is the obvious solution. You get carded when you go to a bar. You get carded when you try to buy smokes. Why should the Internet be different? Really, anyone who refuses to put even the most basic safeguards on the Web (a) shouldn't have a computer, and (b) shouldn't have kids.

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    Be advised I'm not reading your posts. The rights of pornographers to peddle their filth mean nothing to me. A simple age verification system is the obvious solution. You get carded when you go to a bar. You get carded when you try to buy smokes. Why should the Internet be different? Really, anyone who refuses to put even the most basic safeguards on the Web (a) shouldn't have a computer, and (b) shouldn't have kids.
    Umm....

    why the hell are you even on a debate website if you're not going to read peoples posts? Do you go sit at resturants and not eat? Do you go to concerts and make sure your ears are plugged enough to where you can't hear what's being played? All I'm seeing is "I can't actually articulate a counter point to what you all are saying so I'm just going to ignore it".

    Guess what? Most porn sites have an age check. If your child hits "Yes I'm 18 years old" once again, That's you and your childs fault. You want to talk about laws? If your child is fraudulently presenting himself as older than he is to illegally access something then why don't you take that up with your liar child.

    But hey, we agree on something but I'll expand upon it a bit. Anyone that has a PLETHORA of safe guards they can put in place to protect their child from pornography on the internet and doesn't bother even lifting a finger to do it but spends time bitching about how the government should regulate it and "protect their wittle children!" at the expense of others freedoms shouldn't A) have kids B) be considered a "parent"

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    Be advised I'm not reading your posts. The rights of pornographers to peddle their filth mean nothing to me. A simple age verification system is the obvious solution. You get carded when you go to a bar. You get carded when you try to buy smokes. Why should the Internet be different? Really, anyone who refuses to put even the most basic safeguards on the Web (a) shouldn't have a computer, and (b) shouldn't have kids.
    LMFAO

    You want the internet to have a card reader?

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    Re: Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited

    A simple age verification system is the obvious solution. You get carded when you go to a bar. You get carded when you try to buy smokes. Why should the Internet be different?
    The internet is international in scope, its physically impossible to do that.

    Really, anyone who refuses to put even the most basic safeguards on the Web (a) shouldn't have a computer, and (b) shouldn't have kids.
    I don't think people like you should have computers or kids either, but I don't go around asking the government enforce my values on everyone else.

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