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    Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    I'm really surprised to see Charlie Boy Melancon get in on this. He must be feeling the heat from his support of Obama's destructionist policies.

    Gulf region lawmakers are demanding an end to the moratorium on offshore oil drilling imposed by the Obama administration, saying the cost to workers' livelihoods exceeds the risk of another spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Louisiana Rep. Charlie Melancon joined several of the region's other congressional members on Tuesday to argue that a six-month moratorium would result in 20,000 lost jobs and the collapse of offshore drilling companies and suppliers, who contribute $6 billion a year to federal coffers.

    FOXNews.com - Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Until they can fix a deep off shore oil leak in a timely manner the ban should not be lifted. Why is it unreasonable to not want another BP type disaster? This leak is worse than the Exxon Valdez oil spill and they still haven't cleaned everything up.
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Until they can fix a deep off shore oil leak in a timely manner the ban should not be lifted. Why is it unreasonable to not want another BP type disaster? This leak is worse than the Exxon Valdez oil spill and they still haven't cleaned everything up.
    Why is it reasonalbe to kill even more jobs in an attempt to fix the leak? Losing all those jobs isn't going to fix the leak any faster.

    Did you hear Obama last night say that he enacted the moratorium for our own good? He's going to take our jobs away for our own good. That's just brilliant.

    Was the shipping industry shut down after the Valedeze spill? Wasn't, was it?
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you hear Obama last night say that he enacted the moratorium for our own good? He's going to take our jobs away for our own good. That's just brilliant.
    And instead we should just let all off shore oil drilling continue as is without worrying about what caused this spill? If we lose some jobs over this that will definatly suck. I'm willing to bet though that it wouldn't suck as much as another one of these leaks that could potentially destroy an entire coastline of our country.

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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is it reasonalbe to kill even more jobs in an attempt to fix the leak?
    Perhaps you should talk to the people who have lost their jobs because of the leak. Despite your very narrow view of the world, there are people who use the ocean for things other then shipping and oil drilling. There's thousands of crab and shrimp men who are going under because of BP. And let's not even start on the tourism. That's dead.

    Losing all those jobs isn't going to fix the leak any faster.
    See above.

    Did you hear Obama last night say that he enacted the moratorium for our own good? He's going to take our jobs away for our own good. That's just brilliant.
    It is if your job relies on a clean ocean environment. Oh I forgot, You think that only shippers and Oil men use the ocean. Sorry.

    Was the shipping industry shut down after the Valedeze spill? Wasn't, was it?
    Um, oil shipping and shipping are not the same thing. A container ship holding rubber duckies that sinks is not going to cause a massive environmental castrostophy. Furthermore, Exxon failed to provide many of the basic things it said it was going to do. Like turn on radar. And have emergency response ships.
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    And instead we should just let all off shore oil drilling continue as is without worrying about what caused this spill? If we lose some jobs over this that will definatly suck. I'm willing to bet though that it wouldn't suck as much as another one of these leaks that could potentially destroy an entire coastline of our country.
    Maybe someone needs to provide him with a list of industries that rely upon a relatively clean ocean? Amusingly, Apdst fails to recognize that the oil spill has cost thousands of fishermen their jobs, causing increased importation of foreign seafood and more money leaving the US. Not a word about that eh?
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is it reasonalbe to kill even more jobs in an attempt to fix the leak?
    I would think not wanting the gulf of Mexico and the coast line to turn into a cesspool and not wanting fishing and tourism industry killed would be a good enough reason for most people. Considering it will take decades for clean up, those oil rig workers will have a alternate long term employment option assuming the fishermen and others who lost their livelihood due to the oil leak ave not already taken those clean up jobs.

    Losing all those jobs isn't going to fix the leak any faster.
    But it will ensure that another leak won't happen. What would happen if another massive oil leak or two happened?
    Did you hear Obama last night say that he enacted the moratorium for our own good?
    Until oil leaks like BP's can be fixed in a timely manner then it is a good move to enact a moratorium.


    He's going to take our jobs away for our own good.
    What about the fishermen's jobs, what about the jobs of those who depend on tourist and others whose livelihood is threatened by the oil leak that will possibly take decades to clean up?


    That's just brilliant.
    Nice to see that you agree.
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post

    What about the fishermen's jobs, what about the jobs of those who depend on tourist and others whose livelihood is threatened by the oil leak that will possibly take decades to clean up?
    They aren't oilmen or shippers. Therefore "Screw Em." So what if those Americans lose their jobs and go on welfare? So what if we increase our trade deficits buying goods we normally bought from Americans that we now buy from foreigners? So what if entire industries go under causing many indirectly supported to lose their jobs as well? They aren't oilmen or shippers, therefore in the argument of Apdst, they aren't even worth considering.

    The only jobs that matter are shippers and oilmen.
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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    I can't believe a moratorium was ever imposed in the first place. The problem with the BP spill is not a problem with drilling generally, it is drilling in ultradeep water without even the technological ability for failsafe measures. That is why BP was criminally negligent, and we should not punish honest oil companies for BPs misdeeds. Stricter safety regulations? Sure! But do not stop drilling! Now that BP has killed all the fish and ruined all the beaches, oil is the only thing left in the Gulf with any value!

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    Re: Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    They aren't oilmen or shippers. Therefore "Screw Em." So what if those Americans lose their jobs and go on welfare? So what if we increase our trade deficits buying goods we normally bought from Americans that we now buy from foreigners? So what if entire industries go under causing many indirectly supported to lose their jobs as well? They aren't oilmen or shippers, therefore in the argument of Apdst, they aren't even worth considering.

    The only jobs that matter are shippers and oilmen.
    If the deep water off shore oil rigs were automated I think he still wouldn't care about the jobs of the fishermen and everyone else losing their livelyhood to the oil leak. Its a matter of supporting off shore oil drilling to him and nothing more.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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