Are you coming to bed?
I can't. This is important.
Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD
I don't know about the cancer claim but I do believe that, personally and anecdotally speaking, I think low frequency microwaves from a fixed source over a lengthy period can affect me. I used to live next to a train and the electromagnetic radiation of the tracks increased my frequency of illness. I expect people to call that pseudoscientific, but science doesn't know everything and it knows very little about how different forms of energy affect the human body.
I have to ask why we need a law requiring the posting? With a quick search of the internet I found a source that gives a radiation guide for cell phones. IMO a good consumer would reseach whatever product of significants that they were going to buy before puchasing. For those that don't have internet, there is the library. Cell Phone Radiation - 1,000 Cell Phone Radiation Safety Ratings
If SF wants this law, yea for them. So is the next step for SF to post radiation levels for microwaves and TV's?
"I can explain it to you but, I can't understand it for you"
"There is no evidence that this causes cancer. Although there's no reason to believe it would, it's technically possible that maybe 50 years of it would, so we can't say with 100% certainty that there's no way it could cause cancer. Accordingly, we should check in on this again later."
"We need to study this much more because we don't know what's going on."
The first is what actually happened. The second is what you're erroneously claiming happened.
Ah, harping on the distinction between a warning label on the phone and a warning label posted next to the phone. Cute.Second, you refer to the Board's action as requiring warning labels. That's wrong, too. You're batting 0 (zero) [nada] in this thread. The Board has required that the radiation levels be displayed next to the phones offered for sale. Posting radiation emission levels might be considered a public service by some or as an irrelevancy by others; either way, I suspect that the cell phone industry will manage to survive.
Moreover, you once again ignore the point - do you actually think this is going to have a real impact on consumer choices? Is the information posted next to phones going to impact your cell phone usage? Do you think people are going to see these signs and decide to go back to land lines?
It's frivolous ****, on par with the vaccine-autism garbage.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
One of you will end up here next!
Calling it stupid is closed minded but oh well, your choice. I don't care what "other sources of information" have to say. Statistics don't override my individual experience.
You stated science has "very little" information on how different kinds of "energy" affect the human body. That's wrong. We have tons of information. I'm not talking about statistics here, I'm talking about physics. Seeing as how you have no physical capacity for even detecting electromagnetic energy, I think it's a pretty large leap for you to determine that such a thing is what caused your illness. Your refrigerator was exposing you to a stronger magnetic field than the train tracks were.
Edit: Assuming the train was the only variable that changed from your previous dwelling (it wasn't) I'd suppose that the sound from the trains was a far more likely stress that caused illness.
Last edited by Deuce; 06-17-10 at 07:59 PM.
One of you will end up here next!
I'm not sure what your attachment is to disproving my claim which, to me, is self-evident based on my experience. Maybe you feel that the ways in which you understand the world are being threatened or something, I don't really know. I can assure you, it wasn't accoustics. I'm a pretty sound sleeper. People who live near power lines can experience similar effects, if they are sensitive to it. Not everyone is though, so I can't make any sort of universal generalization.
I can only speak on behalf of myself.