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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I certainly am confused as to how you can joke about how BP ought to tell Obama they would "consider it if he asked nicely"
    I wasn't joking.
    The Obama doesn't have the power to order BP to do anything of the sort, and someone should point this out. No one has a more powerful opportunity to do this than Hayward, if for no other reason that the press cannot ignore any such response.

    The rest of your post is ignorant supposition, in whch you may contine to wallow at your leisure, given that you clearly have no interest in discussing the legitimate and relevant point that I presented.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So no failure of three administrations to outfit the 1994 plan as required by law? No failure of Obama to leave 13 countries waiting on the outside to help because he wont lift the jones act?


    Really?

    wow indeed,,,,
    I see. So blatant violation of safety regulations is the fault of the regulator, not the violator?
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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I see. So blatant violation of safety regulations is the fault of the regulator, not the violator?
    When a D is the Prez......yes.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Let me know when you fellers are done with those strawmen.
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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So no failure of three administrations to outfit the 1994 plan as required by law? No failure of Obama to leave 13 countries waiting on the outside to help because he wont lift the jones act?


    Really?

    wow indeed,,,,
    Plenty of failure to go around. The corruption we had in oversight as well...man that should be metted out with life sentences. But pointing fingers does not clean up the oil; and that's what we need to focus on. We can hang CEO's later. Or during. But we've gotta start getting things together a bit better. Katrina shouldn't have taken so long to fix (and it's still not fixed). We can do a lot better job cleaning.
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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No failure of Obama to leave 13 countries waiting on the outside to help because he wont lift the jones act?


    Really?

    wow indeed,,,,
    Can you show me any evidence that even a single request to help from another country has been denied or not allowed because of the Jones Act?

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Wonder when he will demand Exxon pay for the Valdez oil spill in full... like that will ever happen. If I were BP, I would say **** off we have a job to do, and come back to us when Exxon has paid in full with interest what they owe.
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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Wonder when he will demand Exxon pay for the Valdez oil spill in full... like that will ever happen. If I were BP, I would say **** off we have a job to do, and come back to us when Exxon has paid in full with interest what they owe.
    You made this false claim once already, and I pointed out your mistake in that thread:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058802120

    Once again, Exxon has already paid the full $2b cost of cleaning up the spill. They also already paid $1.8b in economic damages that were awarded. The only thing that they were fighting over was punitive damages (and it turned out they were correct on the merits.)

    Moreover, I believe that Exxon has already paid out most if not all of the punitive damages as well.


    As of 2009:


    Exxon Valdez actually owed a total of $507.5 million in the punitive award, and, so far, it has paid $383 million of that to those who sued.
    As of 2010:

    Exxon paid more than $3.8 billion in cleanup and damage costs, plus about $500 million in punitive damages.
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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Can you show me any evidence that even a single request to help from another country has been denied or not allowed because of the Jones Act?


    Yes i can and i have. I am on the iphone so you are free to search it.


    In fact the admin sent a letter to the dutch stating thanks but no thanks.
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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Yes i can and i have. I am on the iphone so you are free to search it.


    In fact the admin sent a letter to the dutch stating thanks but no thanks.
    They might have turned down some help when they feel it wouldn't be helpful, but at any point in that letter or anywhere else did anyone say it was because of the Jones Act? Do you have any proof that the Jones Act has prevented one single iota of help?

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