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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    this is an ignorant position. While I agree they should pay every dime of this cleanup and for any damages they cause. I hope they make a fortune in the meantime so they can afford to actually, you know, pay out this money. :
    well it was also hyperbole, because we both know the US government will not allow BP to go bankrupt.

    there is no way the feds want to be left with all the clean-up cost, let alone the claims from people affected, and so on.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Has anyone bothered to ask what gives The Obama has the power to order BP to "set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners who have been harmed"?

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Obama to demand BP pay for oil spill damage - Yahoo! News

    BP executives, including Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg, CEO Tony Hayward and BP U.S. boss Lamar McKay, were seen walking into the West Wing of the White House just before 10 a.m. ET for talks with Obama that were scheduled to last 20 minutes.
    Wow, Obama, you dedicated a whole 20 minutes to meet with BP? Nice of you to push your tee time back a few minutes.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Hayward, etc, should respond with “Sorry, but no. However, if you ask nicely, then maybe we’ll consider it”.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hayward, etc, should respond with “Sorry, but no. However, if you ask nicely, then maybe we’ll consider it”.
    You know, I wouldn't be so bothered by right-wingers supporting BP if they weren't so gleeful about it. Do you guys take this oil spill and BP's evasiveness in accepting responsibility as some sort of validation of the "free market" at work? Or are you just automatically supportive of anything that will hurt Obama politically? Honestly, what's up with that?

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You know, I wouldn't be so bothered by right-wingers supporting BP if they weren't so gleeful about it.
    I'm sorry -- you're confused.

    There's no support for BP in what I said, there's opposition to the idea that The Obama can simply order BP to create this fund and then turn the administration of said fund over to some 3rd party.

    But then, Messiahs aren't constrained by the rules of foolish mortals.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Really Mr. President, with "everything you got"? Why then, is the jones act in place, and why sir, are the offers of 13 countries including the dutch ignored while millions of barrels of oil destroy the gulf?







    Really sir? You have declared war on the Gulf, but unlike Bush I, I think you are losing this one. To turn this disaster into a political move for your anti-oil agenda is sick. allow the help in. and throw everything at it. You sir are derelict by not lifting the jones act.
    Epoch Times - Jones Act Not A Concern For BP Oil Spill Cleanup
    BP Oil Spill: What is the Jones Act?

    Because they haven't needed to lift the Jones Act.
    We are using the assistance from other countries. They aren't being ignored.

    To turn this into a political move? So if he says nothing then we bash him for inaction, he comes out and says what he's doing and what his plans are and we bash him for playing politics and that he blamed it on Bush though he didn't even mention Bush's name? I can't say that i expected any different when I clicked on this thread. Kudos.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm sorry -- you're confused.

    There's no support for BP in what I said, there's opposition to the idea that The Obama can simply order BP to create this fund and then turn the administration of said fund over to some 3rd party.

    But then, Messiahs aren't constrained by the rules of foolish mortals.
    There are many conservatives who jump to defend BP though, all you have to do is look on their online Mecca, FreeRepublic

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by somepeoplesay View Post
    There are many conservatives who jump to defend BP though, all you have to do is look on their online Mecca, FreeRepublic
    However true that may be, it doesn't have anything to do with what -I- said.

    Someone was more interested in attacking conservatives than actually reading what I said and ressponding to it.

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    Re: Obama declares 'reckless' BP will pay Gulf cleanup

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm sorry -- you're confused.

    There's no support for BP in what I said, there's opposition to the idea that The Obama can simply order BP to create this fund and then turn the administration of said fund over to some 3rd party.

    But then, Messiahs aren't constrained by the rules of foolish mortals.
    I certainly am confused as to how you can joke about how BP ought to tell Obama they would "consider it if he asked nicely" as if they've done nothing wrong in this situation. I have no idea what penalties Obama can impose if BP doesn't comply with the orders, but the reaction of a person who doesn't support BP ought to be to look for those penalties, and if there aren't any to come up with something ad hoc. BP simply should not be allowed to decline to participate in this fund and should not be allowed to refuse third party management of it. Obama is hardly a Messiah (but thanks for the warmed over dittohead tripe) and he's been screwing this up royally. But if you're not with Obama and the American people on this then you're with BP.

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