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    Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones - Yahoo! News

    The Federal Aviation Administration has been asked to issue flying rights for a range of pilotless planes to carry out civilian and law-enforcement functions but has been hesitant to act. Officials are worried that they might plow into airliners, cargo planes and corporate jets that zoom around at high altitudes, or helicopters and hot air balloons that fly as low as a few hundred feet off the ground.

    On top of that, these pilotless aircraft come in a variety of sizes. Some are as big as a small airliner, others the size of a backpack. The tiniest are small enough to fly through a house window.
    Is it just me or does this not make your skin crawl? Nevermind crashing into stuff, but these drones are routinely used to blow people to pieces instantly.

    Now I'm not usually one to get paranoid, but honestly even traffic cameras make me unconfortable.

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    re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    I do not advocate the usage of drones as long as the federal government has fears that they are a plausible danger to other air traffic. But if you are afraid of traffic cameras and think they're going to use them to spy on people or yourself... well... I'll politely say you're mistaken.

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    re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    I could have sworn that a few years ago, the whole domestic spying thing was a big political issue with Democrats claiming a fascist tinge from Washington. Now of course there's no such out cry, yet the potential for domestic spying is expanding. It's only fascist if the OTHER political party is in power.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    Those would be fun to shoot down.
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    Re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    As long as drones are safe enough to other air traffic, they should be allowed. Whether the government should use them to observe its citizens is a different matter entirely. You can allow a technology without letting it be used in abusive ways.

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    Re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    They should keep it how it is and forbid the drones. Nothing good will come of it.
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    Re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    Is it just me or does this not make your skin crawl? Nevermind crashing into stuff, but these drones are routinely used to blow people to pieces instantly.
    Military drones loaded with weapons and bombs are used to blow people to pieces instantly.
    Civilian drones used for law enforcement purposes are not.

    Moreover, there's no reason to assume that these are being used for "spying" or any other improper purpose. The question really comes down to whether these drones would be any more dangerous or intrusive than a helicopter or plane in a similar situation. I can't see how they would.
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    Re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Moreover, there's no reason to assume that these are being used for "spying" or any other improper purpose.
    There's no reason to assume that they won't. The government is always to be mistrusted, the founders were clear on that one. And rightfully so. Any entity which wields the power and sovereignty of the People must be distrusted. So the question isn't whether this is more dangerous or intrusive than a helicopter or plane, but rather why can't they use a helicopter or plane? Why do they need more and more things to keep an eye on all of us? What is the purpose of using these drones, what will they eventually use if for, can it be expanded even further against the people? These are proper questions.
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    Re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Military drones loaded with weapons and bombs are used to blow people to pieces instantly.
    Civilian drones used for law enforcement purposes are not.

    Moreover, there's no reason to assume that these are being used for "spying" or any other improper purpose. The question really comes down to whether these drones would be any more dangerous or intrusive than a helicopter or plane in a similar situation. I can't see how they would.
    I'll use the same argument used about the Arizona immigration bill ... the "potential" for inappropriate use exists and therefore since these drones "could" be used for spying in the hands of government or law enforcement or "could" be used for nefarious purposes... these drones therefore should not be used. The point being - if people distrust the government, the use of words such as "inappropriate", "dangerous" and "intrusive" are subjective words meaning nothing. Perhaps defining a narrow scope of use and providing civilian oversight of their use would make it more palatable.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Feds under pressure to open US skies to drones (edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll use the same argument used about the Arizona immigration bill ... the "potential" for inappropriate use exists and therefore since these drones "could" be used for spying in the hands of government or law enforcement or "could" be used for nefarious purposes... these drones therefore should not be used. The point being - if people distrust the government, the use of words such as "inappropriate", "dangerous" and "intrusive" are subjective words meaning nothing. Perhaps defining a narrow scope of use and providing civilian oversight of their use would make it more palatable.
    I see no problem with it if they replace the role of police helicoptors or planes to search for lost people in the woods or whatever. If there is a new role, I would like that scrutinized very closely.

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