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Etheridge caught in on-camera confrontation

What we do know is that Mr. Etheridge is political toast.
 
hazlnut said:
Typical, Rev, still needs reading lessons.

Hey, Johnny Cochran... Read my first post re: assault - I said DC may have a different statuary definition. Did you not read that???

Stop trying to play the big shot who knows how to google and just accept that you didn't know the difference between assualt and battery until TODAY.

WHEN I TAUGHT IT TO YOU.
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Mouth foaming hackery by the usual suspect. I schooled you and now your having a fit. :shrug:


how did you teach me what "battery" was?


as soon as the congressman touched him, it became battery.


:doh



And you're welcome.




Fair enough... Put it context.

What exactly happened?

Describe the scene...
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Irrellevant, answer the question. what would you do, if I grabbed you like the congressman did those kids.


Your lack of answering is pretty embarrassing.
 
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j-mac said:
No, with the video in hand I would have been well within my right of self defense. It is you whom are too much.
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You just said:


Originally Posted by j-mac
I only wish it were me that the jerk demo tried to assault and smack the camera out of my hand.....he'd look a little different today.
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If you beat the congressman (as you described) you would go to jail. Period.

Self-defense = run away from the old man who can't chase you.
 
hazlnut said:
I'm saying his version of the story could go something like this:

"I was walking ALONE down the street. TWO MEN younger than me approached and DIDN'T IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. There was a LARGE CAMERA shoved in my face and they were BLOCKING MY WAY."

He felt ambushed and tried to move past them.

I love that he grabbed the little punk and made him wet his pants.... Did you hear the shaking in their voices: "It's for a project, sir.":lamo:lamo
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They were wearing suits, standing on the sidewalk and greeted the Ass with Hi, Congressman, how are you?
YouTube - Congressman Assaults Student on Washington Sidewalk
Have a look.

Deep threat them kids. LARGE CAMERA and mentioned that assault word: OBAMA... ROTFLMFAO... do you write for Rosie O'Donnell? Or are you the telepromteur dude at the WH?

You also contradict yourself in a few short sentences: "He felt ambushed... the little punk..."

ROTFLMFAO... Maybe you don't write for Rosie, maybe you are Rosie... Are you?

Obama, Obama, Obama...
LOL

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j-mac said:
And why is asking a congressman whether or not he supports the Presidents agenda a "stupid question"? or, are you saying that these people that are PUBLIC SERVANTS too damned important to answer a question from us lowly serfs anymore?


j-mac
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Because it is not a question that leads to a simple, easy answer that can be done on a street.
 
hazlnut said:
You just said:




If you beat the congressman (as you described) you would go to jail. Period.

Self-defense = run away from the old man who can't chase you.
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kid asked the congressman to let go of his wirst, the congressman instead grabbed his neck.


what would you do if I did that to you?
 
MrVicchio said:
Etheridge caught in on-camera confrontation | abc11.com


Dude needs to be charged with assault.
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Absolutley. While I didn't see what happened prior ot the wrist grabbing due to the editing (so I can't really say if the wrist grab was entirely out of line, although it looks like it probably was out of line), Etheridge clearly wasn't being threatened in any way when he let go of the wrist and grabbed the kid's neck.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
as soon as the congressman touched him, it became battery.
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Exactly, the touching part. Now you're catching on.

Very good, Rev.:bravo::bravo:

Irrellevant, answer the question. what would you do, if I grabbed you like the congressman did those kids.


Your lack of answering is pretty embarrassing.
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Your trying to pretend these were two little boy scouts wanting an autograph is beyond silly and stupid.

Pretend, I'm a cop. And you want to make a complaint.

Tell me what happened, sir? Did an old man grab your neck for no reason?

What was he doing before he grabbed you?

What were you doing?

Did he say anything?

Did you say anything?

And what is that camera for?

Please, sir, just answer the questions so I can put it in my report.

See, Rev, you're asking me to comment on a hypothetical in which I'm an idiot with a camera charging up to a congressman asking dumb questions meant to provoke an answer...

Since, you're in a googling mood, google "Hypothetical"...

Meanwhile, if I'd like to interview a congressman for a college project, I WRITE A LETTER DESCRIBING THE PROJECT IN DETAIL AND THEN TELEPHONE HIS OFFICE WITH A FOLLOW UP CALL...

What's not relevant are the two little turds with a camera trying to play at being reporters....
 
hazlnut said:
He didn't assault them. (unless DC has a different statutory definition)

In fact, it could be argued that they assaulted him.
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You're absolutely right that it could be argued that they assaulted him.

You'd be wrong, but you could argue it.
 
Tucker Case said:
Absolutley. While I didn't see what happened prior ot the wrist grabbing due to the editing (so I can't really say if the wrist grab was entirely out of line, although it looks like it probably was out of line), Etheridge clearly wasn't being threatened in any way when he let go of the wrist and grabbed the kid's neck.
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Assault might be a tad much, but he should have to go through sensitivity training for 6-months to 12-months at his own expense...LOL.

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hazlnut said:
I'm saying his version of the story could go something like this:

"I was walking ALONE down the street. TWO MEN younger than me approached and DIDN'T IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. There was a LARGE CAMERA shoved in my face and they were BLOCKING MY WAY."

He felt ambushed and tried to move past them.

I love that he grabbed the little punk and made him wet his pants.... Did you hear the shaking in their voices: "It's for a project, sir.":lamo:lamo
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lol it was a public official being asked a simple question on a public sidewalk by student journalists, you have more than adequately answered my question, you are completely out of you mind.
 
Could the congressman have shot them if they were across the street? :2razz:
 
Redress said:
Etheridge was walking down the street, trying to get somewhere when they used ambush journalism techniques(which I hate), rushing out to point a camera at him and ask him a stupid question. I don't think this is appropriate to do to any one, republican, democrat, sports figure, any one. There are appropriate ways to get questions answered and interviews, this is not one of them.
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It was a public figure walking down a public sidewalk who was asked a simple question by student journalists. Ethridge and anyone who defends his actions in any way are out of their ****ing minds.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
kid asked the congressman to let go of his wirst, the congressman instead grabbed his neck.


what would you do if I did that to you?
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Wrist = a quick hard twist out toward the thumb while stepping back...

Neck = I've already escaped the wrist hold, moot point.

Neck (in Rev's far-fetch hypothetical where an I'm a James O'Keef asshat) = grab his wrist, then push his elbow out and up while pulling the wrist from my neck... step back. I'm free.

I apologize and burn the tape.
 
RightinNYC said:
You're absolutely right that it could be argued that they assaulted him.

You'd be wrong, but you could argue it.
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Since when do right and wrong have anything to do with a legal defense?? Sadly.

It's called posturing.
 
Tucker Case said:
Absolutley. While I didn't see what happened prior ot the wrist grabbing due to the editing (so I can't really say if the wrist grab was entirely out of line, although it looks like it probably was out of line), Etheridge clearly wasn't being threatened in any way when he let go of the wrist and grabbed the kid's neck.
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And thank you for being the only one to mention there was a big edit. -- We don't know what happened?

Etheridge may have over reacted, but I still love the terrified sound in the little punk's voice... "sir..."

The way those two O'Keef asshats wet their pants was classic.
 
Holy crap, I go away for an hour and I come back and this whole thread has been turned into Partisan hackery, god zimmer even found a way to throw Obama into it... fantastic, but I would expect nothing less.

Look. What this congressman did was moronic. HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER! That's the end of it, as Robin Williams put it so elequantly "It's no longer big brother, it's little snitch" Even if these kids didn't have a Camera, most cell phones now come with video camera's, it is absolutely pants on head retarded for him to do what he did. Having said that, the kids intentions I feel were less then innocent, they sound like a couple of brats, but that's not the point, doesn't make what the congressmen did right.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Holy crap, I go away for an hour and I come back and this whole thread has been turned into Partisan hackery, god zimmer even found a way to throw Obama into it... fantastic, but I would expect nothing less.

Look. What this congressman did was moronic. HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER! That's the end of it, as Robin Williams put it so elequantly "It's no longer big brother, it's little snitch" Even if these kids didn't have a Camera, most cell phones now come with video camera's, it is absolutely pants on head retarded for him to do what he did. Having said that, the kids intentions I feel were less then innocent, they sound like a couple of brats, but that's not the point, doesn't make what the congressmen did right.
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Jet,
I was mocking a lonney toones argument that came from a source known for such statements.
The individual said the Congressman was assaulted. With what? A question about Obama???
And then the fun started...

:)
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All politicians are human and should be judged as individuals and not along party lines. I wonder if any posters would change their minds/posts if this had been a Republican.
 
hazlnut said:
And thank you for being the only one to mention there was a big edit. -- We don't know what happened?

Etheridge may have over reacted, but I still love the terrified sound in the little punk's voice... "sir..."

The way those two O'Keef asshats wet their pants was classic.
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We know Congressman Asshat apologized.
If there was anything incriminating, he would have asked for the release of the tape.

End of story.

I heard the WWF offered him a contract.

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digsbe said:
All politicians are human and should be judged as individuals and not along party lines. I wonder if any posters would change their minds/posts if this had been a Republican.
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I guarantee you I would have been just as shocked and probably more pissed off, AND probably would have suggested he retire his seat or at a minimum not seek re-election.

No guff.

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digsbe said:
All politicians are human and should be judged as individuals and not along party lines. I wonder if any posters would change their minds/posts if this had been a Republican.
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There is no way that this guy was a democrat. Us liberals are wimpy pacifists. We would have probably peed our pants instead. :2razz:
 
hazlnut said:
Since when do right and wrong have anything to do with a legal defense?? Sadly.

It's called posturing.
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I'm not sure what you're saying. Asking someone a question on the street, regardless of whether the question is dumb or if there is a camera, is not even close to assault.

These kids did the same type of idiot in-your-face journalism that many cheered on when it was done by Michael Moore, moveon, or other liberal groups. If the roles were reversed here, there's no chance you'd be belittling the kids and defending someone like John Cornyn.

If you're a politician, people will be following you around with cameras and asking you questions that you don't want to answer. Grabbing the person with the camera is not the mature way to respond to that. I don't think the guy should be arrested for anything, but he's certainly an idiot.
 
winston53660 said:
Ahh paparazzi journalism.
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Really? Asking an elected representative a question on a public sidewalk is "paparazzi journalism"? And why don't you have anything to say about the obvious assault that was committed by a sitting Congressman? Isn't that the real issue here, and not some imagined "paparazzi" tactic?

hazlnut1058804501 said:
Um... Yeah. Duh? Who the hell are the tools bothering the congressman? Do they live in his district?
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What difference does it make who they are or where they're from? This is a free country, isn't it?

And what kind of stupid ****ing question is that? "Supporting the Obama agenda." Friggin' idiots. Go back to school and learning something.
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I think you're missing something here. A sitting Congressman assaulted someone because they asked him a question. Never mind the fact that you think it's a stupid question - that is totally irrelevant - he had no right to put his hands on that young man, period. Your anger (which seems to be a recurrent theme in your posts) is totally misplaced and absurd.

Redress said:
Etheridge reacted poorly. I think there is no real question there. I do to an extent feel for him. Just because you are a public official does not mean people should be able to try and get an on camera interview any time they want. The kid was being a dick. That does not excuse Etheridge's behavior, but he was not the only one whose behavior was inappropriate.
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You feel for him??? He assaulted someone!

He's a public official, and he was walking down a public sidewalk.

How is asking an elected representative a question about the President's agenda in a public place "being a dick"?

rathi said:
The kid was being a prick...
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How is asking a public official a question about the President's political agenda "being a prick"? I guess you think every reporter on the planet is a prick, too?
 
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