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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, the SCOTUS has already ruled once before that caused a huge change in marriage laws, that were supported by the majority of people, because those laws were viewed as discriminatory. It is very likely that this will be dealt with the same way within the next 10 years, if not sooner.
    That was about race, not a sexual preference.

    The challenges and defeats in CA (a very liberal state) should clue you in on how this is going. In this case their is no clear cut majority for gay marriage. On top of that 23 states have already amended the state constitutions to define marriage as one man and one woman. more states are moving quickly to do the same or are out right banning it.

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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That was about race, not a sexual preference.

    The challenges and defeats in CA (a very liberal state) should clue you in on how this is going. In this case their is no clear cut majority for gay marriage. On top of that 23 states have already amended the state constitutions to define marriage as one man and one woman. more states are moving quickly to do the same or are out right banning it.

    The evidence does not support your opinion.
    It's not the same situation but it is a similar one, and the support for same-sex marriage is steadily growing. In fact, there's an almost directly linear correlation between age and support. Old people hate the idea by a huge margin, young people are about dead even now. As the older generations start to die off, you'll see a clear majority in favor of same-sex marriage I bet. So yes, he's right in a manner of speaking. There's no majority now but I expect there will be in the near future.

    It seems clear to me that religion is the only reason this hasn't been done already. Like one of the first responders said, once you take religion out of the equation there aren't really any arguments against same-sex marriage.
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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That was about race, not a sexual preference.

    The challenges and defeats in CA (a very liberal state) should clue you in on how this is going. In this case their is no clear cut majority for gay marriage. On top of that 23 states have already amended the state constitutions to define marriage as one man and one woman. more states are moving quickly to do the same or are out right banning it.

    The evidence does not support your opinion.
    Actually it does. Currently, the majority of Americans are against gay marriage, but the trend shows a definitive acceptance, which will eventually lead to legalization. This is especially true amongst the younger voters (18-30) from older polls (Americans' Acceptance of Gay Relations Crosses 50% Threshold).

    Those in favor of gay marriage simply have to wait. Eventually all DOMA laws will struck down, given the general drift towards acceptance.

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    That was about race, not a sexual preference.

    Discrimination against homosexuals is not about "sexual preference".
    It's about sexual orientation, which is as innate as race.

    One might as well say Jim Crow Laws were about "pigmentation preference", and therefore the discrimination was legitimate.


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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Well good. That makes 9 countries that recognize full homosexual marriage along with 5 US states, the District of Columbia and Mexico City, and 18 countries, 9 US states, 4 Australian states, 4 Argentinian states, and one state from Mexico and Venezuela each that allow civil unions (basically marriage minus the name). Gradually, the idea is advancing is the world hasn't imploded or been struck down by god. Hell, two US states and the District of Columbia have even passed gay marriage legislatively signaling that this is moving beyond the courts even in the US. Hundreds of millions of people either have the right to fully marry a person of the same sex or to effectively do so without the name. And yet there have been no demonstrable negative effects from this (even religious liberty is safe as pastors who disapprove of the practice aren't forced to perform ceremonies, its not like they were forced to perform ceremonies on say, atheist couples if they found that against their beliefs so why would they be forced to marry gays?). So good for Iceland and hopefully more places (especially US states) will be rapidly joining the club.

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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Discrimination against homosexuals is not about "sexual preference".
    It's about sexual orientation, which is as innate as race.

    One might as well say Jim Crow Laws were about "pigmentation preference", and therefore the discrimination was legitimate.

    After all, black people could just paint themselves white if they didn't want to be living with such a sinful skin pigmentation. (/sarcasm)

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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Amazing how an issue can be so divisive in the United States but in Iceland someone said "Hey let's legalize same sex marriage" and their entire legislature said "Hey yeah let's do that."
    This is because most people in Europe are living in the 21st century, and they think like mature adults.
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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not the same situation but it is a similar one, and the support for same-sex marriage is steadily growing. In fact, there's an almost directly linear correlation between age and support. Old people hate the idea by a huge margin, young people are about dead even now. As the older generations start to die off, you'll see a clear majority in favor of same-sex marriage I bet. So yes, he's right in a manner of speaking. There's no majority now but I expect there will be in the near future.
    Please point out where I said it would not ever have a majority? My point was it will not happen in the next 10 years going by the evidence we have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It seems clear to me that religion is the only reason this hasn't been done already. Like one of the first responders said, once you take religion out of the equation there aren't really any arguments against same-sex marriage.
    If religion was not in the mix, gay marriage would still be a hot issue because it has not been accepted by other than religion for centuries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Actually it does. Currently, the majority of Americans are against gay marriage, but the trend shows a definitive acceptance, which will eventually lead to legalization. This is especially true amongst the younger voters (18-30) from older polls (Americans' Acceptance of Gay Relations Crosses 50% Threshold).

    Those in favor of gay marriage simply have to wait. Eventually all DOMA laws will struck down, given the general drift towards acceptance.
    I agree it will happen at some point. Maybe in the next 20 to 30 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Discrimination against homosexuals is not about "sexual preference".
    It's about sexual orientation, which is as innate as race.
    Science has yet to say this is definitive. You can claim it all you like, but you know this does not make it true.

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    One might as well say Jim Crow Laws were about "pigmentation preference", and therefore the discrimination was legitimate.
    Jim Crow laws were laws specifically passed to stop people of a different race from doing what ever. There are no laws in the US specifically passed to single out homosexuals. They are free to marry anyone of the opposite sex like the rest of us.

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    So good for Iceland and hopefully more places (especially US states) will be rapidly joining the club.
    As I have shown it will probably be later rather than sooner.

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    After all, black people could just paint themselves white if they didn't want to be living with such a sinful skin pigmentation. (/sarcasm)
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    This is because most people in Europe are living in the 21st century, and they think like mature adults.
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    Re: Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

    Well I guess all the straight marriages in Iceland are in trouble now!!!!!
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