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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

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    Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites - Times Online

    If true, this is not the first time Saudi Arabia offers its airspace for an attack on Iran:

    Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on Iran - Times Online
    Saudi Arabia: We will not give Israel air corridor for Iran strike - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
    Earlier Saturday, the Times reported that Saudi Arabia has practiced standing down its anti-aircraft systems to allow Israeli warplanes passage on their way to attack Iran's nuclear installations, adding that the Saudis have allocated a narrow corridor of airspace in the north of the country.

    Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf, the Saudi envoy to the U.K. speaking to the London-based Arab daily Asharq al-Awsat, denied that report, saying such a move "would be against the policy adopted and followed by the Kingdom."

    According to Asharq al-Awsat report, bin Nawaf reiterated the Saudi Arabia's rejection of any violation of its territories or airspace, adding that it would be "illogical to allow the Israeli occupying force, with whom Saudi Arabia has no relations whatsoever, to use its land and airspace."

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Posted this in a different thread with the same title, so here it is again...

    Israel could conduct an attack if they wanted to without the use of Saudi air space anyway. The Southern route would be the least risk in terms of the operational, but the highest in terms of political risks. Ultimately the best route would be one over Syria (and potentially Turkey or Iraq for a small fraction) which would pose a moderate operational risk, but low political risk.

    Israel has no peace treaty with Syria, there is basically no Syrian aircraft presence on the northern border, and Israel's EW capabilities could in all likelihood render the Syrian air defense network useless without actually firing a shot.

    Of course if Israel wanted to as well, they could bag an air raid all together and launch a ballistic missile attack with the Jericho III, and avoid political liabilities from the use of air space, but possibily end up with a less certain outcome in terms of site destruction.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    I would be willing to bet that the Times article is the truth and that the Saudis want to look publicly like they are not supporting the Jew in any way. The Haaretz article is probably what they want out there publicly but someone who was suppose to keep quiet opened there mouth. I also wouldnt think the Israelis would want the Iranians to know whether they had flyover permission either so as to not let the Iranians know where the hell the attack is coming from.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Israel has no peace treaty with Syria, there is basically no Syrian aircraft presence on the northern border, and Israel's EW capabilities could in all likelihood render the Syrian air defense network useless without actually firing a shot.
    Flying over Syrian isn't possible. Israel may have a better airforce, but they still couldn't expect to fight their way through Syrian airspace without expending fuel or munitions, attack targets in Iran, than fight all the way back to home. Tanker aircraft required for such a mission would be sitting ducks over Syrian air space.


    Of course if Israel wanted to as well, they could bag an air raid all together and launch a ballistic missile attack with the Jericho III, and avoid political liabilities from the use of air space, but possibily end up with a less certain outcome in terms of site destruction.
    Jericho missiles have an estimated payload of around 2500 pounds, which is unlikely to be enough to destroy Iran's hardened facilities without a nuclear warhead.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Flying over Syrian isn't possible. Israel may have a better airforce, but they still couldn't expect to fight their way through Syrian airspace without expending fuel or munitions, attack targets in Iran, than fight all the way back to home. Tanker aircraft required for such a mission would be sitting ducks over Syrian air space.
    They won't have to "fight their way through Syrian airspace." As I pointed out, Israel's EW capability, added to the complete lack of Syrian aircraft on the Northern border would effectively mean Israel could fly over Syria without even being spotted by Syrian air defense systems.

    In terms of refueling, there are multiple options to extend the range (by quite a bit) of the F-15E without the use of a refueling tanker. All of this ignores however, that Syria would most likely not even spot an Israel tanker if Israel conducted the mission properly.

    Jericho missiles have an estimated payload of around 2500 pounds, which is unlikely to be enough to destroy Iran's hardened facilities without a nuclear warhead.
    Depends on the site, and you have to understand that you can serevely cripple a site without actually destroying it, which still completes your goal of delaying a nuclear Iran.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Flying over Syrian isn't possible. Israel may have a better airforce, but they still couldn't expect to fight their way through Syrian airspace without expending fuel or munitions, attack targets in Iran, than fight all the way back to home. Tanker aircraft required for such a mission would be sitting ducks over Syrian air space.
    They couldn't expect to fight their way through Syrian airspace because there shouldn't be any fight.
    There was no fight in 2008 when Israeli jets have taken out the Syrian nuclear reactor.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    EW is not some Star Trek cloaking ability. It gets overrated by a lot by people whop do not understand it. There are a number of ways to find aircraft despite EW.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    EW is not some Star Trek cloaking ability. It gets overrated by a lot by people whop do not understand it. There are a number of ways to find aircraft despite EW.
    Yes there are, but luckily the Syrian's have proven incapable of doing such a thing.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    As for, the Jews having the same bomb making capabilities plus, the necessary guidance systems..... I'd be willing to bet that they just have about the same thing we do if not better

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