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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    No chance in hell the U.S would intercept the planes. I've read, most likely conspiratorial, but from credible sources, that the recent rift between the U.S and Israel has been dramatized so that when Israel does hit Iran the U.S has somewhat of plausible deniability. I don't know who would buy that the U.S didn't give Israel the green-light before any strike though.

    Anyone have any estimates on when the strike is coming, because it is coming. I think August/September.
    In Israel we have a war between July to December every three years.
    Last war was in December 2008, we have like one year till then.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Pitwolfy View Post
    It bothers me that the US isn't publicly supporting Israel. There is something inherantly smarmy about this "Oh, we'll support you as long as the rest of the world doesn't know about it". I have no problem openly supporting our best ally in the Middle East!!
    People are starting to get fed up with Israel's behavior and our administration is picking up on that. Israel had carte-blanche for far too long and abused it horribly. And no, I'm not talking about the flotilla nonsense, that was just the lastest and most public example of a several-year trend.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    People are starting to get fed up with Israel's behavior and our administration is picking up on that. Israel had carte-blanche for far too long and abused it horribly. And no, I'm not talking about the flotilla nonsense, that was just the lastest and most public example of a several-year trend.
    If the flotilla nonsense is your example then you have no case.
    Israel's behavior was completely appropriate during that raid, as the evidence released shows.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

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    Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sitesThis thread is about Israel using Saudi airspace. Let's keep it there.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    People are starting to get fed up with Israel's behavior and our administration is picking up on that. Israel had carte-blanche for far too long and abused it horribly. And no, I'm not talking about the flotilla nonsense, that was just the lastest and most public example of a several-year trend.
    Israel's behaviour??? And what behaviour is that? And what people are getting fed up? Our "administration" is wanting to send 400 million dollars to the Gaza strip yet Israel is supposed to be our ally. What kind of fool logic is that? For some inane reason, some think that Israel should just shut-up, take it, be led like lambs to the slaughter. The last time that happened, Jews were led right into the gas chambers. They have the right to defend themselves and I don't think it's too much to ask that the allies they do have aren't back-biting them every chance (Obama) gets.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    People are starting to get fed up with Israel's behavior and our administration is picking up on that. Israel had carte-blanche for far too long and abused it horribly. And no, I'm not talking about the flotilla nonsense, that was just the lastest and most public example of a several-year trend.
    Nothing more than veiled academic codes for anti-semitism.

    International and internal politics continue to render this situation difficult but war is war and rockets flying across your border tends to justify Israeli actions in response, but let me ask you this... Is it because the Israelis haven't negotiated themselves out of existence of because the neighboring Arab governments have exploited the conditions of the Palestinians as means of distracting their people?.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The Saudi's might, but would Obama allow it? Or would he order US Aircraft to intercept them?
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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    The distance is a problem that was already solved.
    During operation Cast Lead (AKA, 2009 Gaza war) Israel has sent jets all the way to Sudan to bomb a convoy that was smuggling weapons to Hamas in Gaza.
    The length between Israel and Sudan and Israel and Iran is pretty close.
    It is not a comparable situation. Iran is much better defended that the Sudan, which has a huge impact on range. Once in Iran, aircraft will be unable to fly at cruising altitude and descend to a low level, which decreases range. Extra munitions and fuel will be needed for SEAD and maintaing air superiority. The targets attacked will be hardened, requiring extremely heavy specialized munitions that further decrease range. It is also unlikely Israel can hit every target at once, meaning Iran will have time to marshal its defenses. If you combine all those factors together, the range issue becomes a serious problem.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    A nuclear Iran isn't just a power play against Israel, but to the rest of the Middle East, as well.

    According to Huntington's Clash of Civilizations this shouldn't happen, but nor should Turkey pick a side.. you know.. according to Huntington.
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