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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Actually, I think the prosecution of the crime would begin at the point of origin for the criminal activity.
    I'm not realy sure how it works, to be honest. It's an interesting issue that I will look up when I have more time.

    Either way, I don't think it's very wise to advocate handing over our military and security personnel to other countries for prosecution under their civilian laws.
    Good point. The prosecution should occur in the US.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    You know, Mexico is getting mighty uppity.


    I think we need to kick their ass and remind them who the **** is who again.

    Given the tension on the border, I propose that the 82nd Airborne be sent to annex a "buffer zone", from the US border to ten miles into Mexico. The buffer zone will be under martial law; no Mexican forces will be allowed in the buffer zone; anyone in the buffer zone is allowed to leave and move into the rest of Mexico, anyone who stays had better behave: the rules of engagment will be, shall we say, very liberal.

    After all, we have to protect our citizens along the border. Its fer the chirren, and stuff.

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Save the melodramatics for someone who gives a **** about that kind of emotive nonsense, Vic.

    The border guard shot a Mexican National on Mexican soil. It's out of his jurisdiction. He is not authorized to do that unless his life is truly in danger, which it wasn't. If they were shooting, then he would have been authorized to defend himself with lethal force. People who are unable to handle the job, should be prevented from doing the job.

    If the kid was on the US side of the border, different story. But while he remaine don MExican soil, the border guard overstepped his authority to act.
    Here again we don't really know what happened yet.

    A U.S. official close to the investigation says a video shows what appear to be four Mexican law enforcement agents crossing the border, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico. The official says on condition of anonymity the video shows the Border Patrol agent who shot the boy never entered Mexico.
    El Paso Border Patrol shooting murky - Yahoo! News

    Most likely we won't ever know what happened, even if that tape is released.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    If you really meant that then you should have no problem with pointing our weapons at Mexicans consdiering how many Americans they have killed.

    Crime victims of illegal aliens
    We already do point weapons at them.

    Now if they actually kill someone on our side of the border and then try to come over to our side, (as was the case here) They shouldn't be warned by meerely pointing the weapon at them.

    They should be shot the moment they cross over the border while armed.


    How is a rock being thrown not a legitmate weapon? Can you kill with a rock? Think before responding.
    I can kill someone with a newspaper. If I'm on one side of the border and the person I'd wish to kill with the newspaper is on the othe rside and all the person needs to do to prevent me from killing them with the newspaper is merely step away from my very limited kill-range while pointing their gun at me in order to get me to stop, then they should do so before they shoot.

    If I actually cross the border to prevent them form getting out of my kill range, they should feel free to shoot.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Here again we don't really know what happened yet.



    El Paso Border Patrol shooting murky - Yahoo! News

    Most likely we won't ever know what happened, even if that tape is released.
    There doesn't seem to be much doubt that the bullet entered mexico, though.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You know, Mexico is getting mighty uppity.


    I think we need to kick their ass and remind them who the **** is who again.

    Given the tension on the border, I propose that the 82nd Airborne be sent to annex a "buffer zone", from the US border to ten miles into Mexico. The buffer zone will be under martial law; no Mexican forces will be allowed in the buffer zone; anyone in the buffer zone is allowed to leave and move into the rest of Mexico, anyone who stays had better behave: the rules of engagment will be, shall we say, very liberal.

    After all, we have to protect our citizens along the border. Its fer the chirren, and stuff.
    You do that, and see how many countries side with Mexico.

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    We already do point weapons at them.
    Not at the border which if you were actually paying attention, that was the context of the thread.

    Now if they actually kill someone on our side of the border and then try to come over to our side, (as was the case here) They shouldn't be warned by meerely pointing the weapon at them.
    They've already done that. Obviously you didn't read the link I gave you.

    They should be shot the moment they cross over the border while armed.
    Sorry if they don't always advertise it.


    I can kill someone with a newspaper.
    A newspaper. You are claiming a newspaper is an equivilant deadly weapon with a rock.

    Did you actually finish high school physics?

    If I'm on one side of the border and the person I'd wish to kill with the newspaper is on the othe rside and all the person needs to do to prevent me from killing them with the newspaper is merely step away from my very limited kill-range while pointing their gun at me in order to get me to stop, then they should do so before they shoot.

    If I actually cross the border to prevent them form getting out of my kill range, they should feel free to shoot.
    So they can throw rocks all they want putting our people at risk and you claim we can do nothing.

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    This whole situation is getting out of hand and idiotic.

    First off the, the wanted criminal kid should've never started throwing rocks at the officer. And spare me the "not a legitimate weapon" crap. Until you can tell me what kind of rocks and what frequency they were being thrown I don't buy it. Were they pebbles? Then sure. Were they baseball sized jagged things? Then they sure as hell are a legitimate weapon.

    Second off, could the officer possibly have made better judgement? Yes, in hindsight. However having not been there and not seeing a full report I can think of a number of reasons why what he did was fully justified. The idiocy of suggesting its an "act of war" astounds me. [mildly sarcastic]Frankly I'd be hilariously thrilled to see Mexico take it as one because frankly it'd be nice to see a war that would end in a short amount of time again[/mildly sarcastic]

    Third off, if the FBI wanted to investigate this on the U.S. border they have every right to do so. If they wanted to go onto Mexican soil they should've alerted Mexican authorities.

    Fourth off, its idiotic beyond belief for their people threaten to shoot the FBI agents if they crossed over. There's nothing that's going to accomplish other than to cause a gigantic incident that would be 100% needless.

    Fifth off, the people justifying or even just not having a fit over that and simply pointing guns at people on the U.S. border who continually bitch, whine, and complain about the notion of even ARRESTING people that are found coming over it let alone shooting them is disgustingly funny in a sad sad way. The hypocrisy and double standard is just as bad as the opposite side that has an issue with it but is quoted anywhere of saying they want guns pointed at anyone near the border on the other side; with the one exception of at least in their case they're not openly and transparently holding their own country in utter and complete contempt and hatred. We can't have individuals sitting on the boarder to call authorities to report a crime is happening because they're supposedly "Racist" for doing such, but its perfectly okay for threats of death and guns to be pointed at officers that are on OUR side of the border investigating an incident.

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There doesn't seem to be much doubt that the bullet entered mexico, though.
    I would call that "hot pursuit"

    Look, the little ****s got caught trying to Illegally cross the border. Some of them where placed in custody. The rest started throwing lethal objects at the arresting officers, who where in the US. The officers shot one of the little ****s and killed him. Camera footage shows 4 Mexican officials crossing the border and retrieving unknown objects. Scene is now compromised and no one will ever know what happened. It's all Bush's fault.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    You do that, and see how many countries side with Mexico.
    What? The rest of South America? Now I'm scared.

    Wouldn't happen anyway. Have you seen the way Mexico treats Illegal Aliens from South America? I think Mexico would find it's self in a 2 front war.
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