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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So you and Tucker want our Agents to be unable to defend themselves when attacked by rock wielders.
    That's not what I stated. I don't know why you insist on being so dishonest.

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Perhaps but it clearly won't be by you. And you have no idea what "grandma" did and why she's carrying that cane.

    Further, the child in that video is not at the same stage of development as the child in the picture you showed.


    It looks like the only noose tightening here is the rope of dishonesty tightening around your own gullet, sport.
    Apparently, not 2 too quick on your "toes"

    The baby, grandma combo represents 2 mindsets. Take your pick

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Whatever. You've spent this whole thread demanding this Agent be tried for defending himself. You started with "It's just a rock" to "The bullet crossed the border" and each time your arguments have been slammed.
    False.

    Now you claim no one (but Jall) is smart enough to get your logic. W/E.
    I never claimed once claimed people weren't smart enough to get it. Plenty of smart people don't understand the things they actively don't want to understand.

    I think the issue here is that it's far easier for some people to present an emotionally-laden irrational argument against a strawman they build up in order to demonize their opponents than it is to actually debate the issues being discussed by the other person. Doesn't mean that said person is irrational. It's quitre rational to argue against an easy target that one has invented for the purpoose of arguing against it than it is to argue against an more difficult target that isn't particularly interested in emotion-laden nonsense.

    This is why the people who seem to be most emotional in this thread are the one's who are creating this strawman that Jall and I are opposed to agents defending themselves.


    You'd legalize drugs
    It's not that simple, obviously. Just look at the video you posted before. The price of human smiggling has grown immensley over the last few years. It's a lot more than drugs that are causing the problem.

    The thing is, I'm not in charge of polic, and I'll never be allowed to be in charge of policy. This isn't because I wouldn't make good policy decisions.

    It's because I'm not prone to making emotionally-laden, irrational arguments. This is what America wants nowadays; pure emotional drivel. We engorge ouselves on it. One only needs to look at the **** that passes for "news" in this country to see that. Look at the nonsense that our politicians on both sides vomit out.

    Well, that, and I've got a criminal record.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Apparently, not 2 too quick on your "toes"

    The baby, grandma combo represents 2 mindsets. Take your pick
    Don't need to. You are clearly making an appeal to the absurd.

    Apparently, honest discussion isn't your interest so why would I indulge such a moronic "pick"?

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's not what I stated. I don't know why you insist on being so dishonest.
    I don't know why you are running away from your stance.

    You think this guy shouldn't have fired his weapon. Ergo, he has no right to self defense.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You think this guy shouldn't have fired his weapon. Ergo, he has no right to self defense.
    False dichotomy.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I don't know why you are running away from your stance.

    You think this guy shouldn't have fired his weapon. Ergo, he has no right to self defense.
    And there you go again...I said I would wait until an investigation into this particular incident was conducted in order to make that judgment call.

    Does anyone even bother to ****ing read a thread before they start spewing and blathering about what they think was said rather than what was actually said?

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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    False dichotomy.
    He was being attacked with rocks. You want him prosecuted for defending himself.

    Ergo in your view, he had no right to defend himself.

    /thread.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And there you go again...I said I would wait until an investigation into this particular incident was conducted in order to make that judgment call.
    Funny, how you've spent most of the thread arguing his actions were wrong... What you're doing is taking a stance and crutching it in "But I'll wait for..." so when you're proven wrong you can say "see, I waited good thing too" and if you're right you can say "See, I was right all along". That's not debate, that's CYA posturing.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Does anyone even bother to ****ing read a thread before they start spewing and blathering about what they think was said rather than what was actually said?
    No, we just see your name and assume you take X stance.

    Don't get mad, if you'd quit trying to play every angle so as not to be wrong, you might get somewhere.
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    Re: FBI: Mexican soldiers used rifles to chase off U.S. Border Patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He was being attacked with rocks. You want him prosecuted for defending himself.

    Ergo in your view, he had no right to defend himself.

    /thread.
    I do believe Tucker also said an investigation was warranted before making a decision.

    However, I will affirm that generally speaking, bullets as a response to rocks should be prosecuted. Again, though, this is a case by case issue.

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