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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    With all this FOX News bashing taking place, we may have to send out a search party for Hazlnut. He's missing a golden opportunity here to deflect and ignore the OP by bashing FOX for reporting a story - and quite accurately at that.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I dont know if it was done intentionally or not but one question I do have to ask is how does including or excluding a knife mean they are trying to cast Israel in a bad light? .... So if it was the intention of Reuters going into this story to report it in a manner biased against Israel, cutting out a knife that could have come from anywhere doesn't really mean that much.
    As far as I know, "humanitarian aid workers" don't typically carry combat knives. Most of the media have been trying to portray the ship that was invaded as a humanitarian aid supplier- having a combat knife in the hand of one of the ship workers tends to take away the validity of the humanitarian angle of the story.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As far as I know, "humanitarian aid workers" don't typically carry combat knives. Most of the media have been trying to portray the ship that was invaded as a humanitarian aid supplier- having a combat knife in the hand of one of the ship workers tends to take away the validity of the humanitarian angle of the story.
    Hamas supported humanitarian workers carry knives.

    What I don't understand is how it could have gotten this far?
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    Isn't that how the game is played... I think I learned those rules during the Bush years.
    Bush did nothing (after Clinton had Ehud Barak give everything and then some... and Arafat wanted more)... and got smacked... where's the chorus about Obi being useless... yet again?
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Absolutely intentional. Really makes you wonder about what they've done before and not been caught.
    Of course it was. Gotta love little Green Footballs. They are really good at busting this kind of stuff.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    So back on topic... How does everything think the removal, or addition, of that knife from the picture could possibly influence anyone's opinion in any way?
    From what I can see, they cropped stuff from all four sides of the picture. That may be for some formatting issue. I suspect that photographs of all sorts are routinely cropped for formatting issues everyday.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Didn't Rueters do something similar before?


    FOXNews.com - Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive
    The British-based Reuters news agency has been stung for the second time by charges that it edited politically sensitive photos in a way that casts Israel in a bad light. But this time Reuters claims it wasn’t at fault.

    The news agency reacted to questions raised by an American blogger who showed that Reuters' photo service edited out knives and blood traces from pictures taken aboard the activist ship Mavi Marmara during a clash with Israeli commandos last week. Nine people were killed and scores were injured in the clash.

    The pictures of the fight were released by IHH, the Turkish-based group that sponsored the six-ship fleet that tried to break Israel's blockade of Gaza.

    In one photo, an Israeli commando is shown lying on the deck of the ship, surrounded by activists. The uncut photo released by IHH shows the hand of an unidentified activist holding a knife. But in the Reuters photo, the hand is visible but the knife has been edited out.

    The blog “Little Green Footballs” challenged Reuters' editing of the photo.

    “That’s a very interesting way to crop the photo. Most people would consider that knife an important part of the context. There was a huge controversy over whether the activists were armed. Cropping out a knife, in a picture showing a soldier who’s apparently been stabbed, seems like a very odd editorial decision. Unless someone was trying to hide it,” the blog stated.

    In a second photo the unedited print issued by IHH showed blood along the ship's railing and a hand holding a knife as an Israeli soldier lies on the deck. Both the blood and the knife were missing in the photo that Reuters released.
    I have no doubt that weapons were in the hands of all parties . . . but that's a knife?

    Does look like a knife to me - could be anything. Why should I believe a random blogger who claims it's a knife in this *one* picture?
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    It's clearly a combat knife.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I dont know if it was done intentionally or not but one question I do have to ask is how does including or excluding a knife mean they are trying to cast Israel in a bad light? A knife is a knife, there's nothing about the knife itself to suggest it was owned or used by either side. So looking at the picture I don't see anything that would conclusively tell me that knife was used by the ship's personnel or its an Israeli knife. So if it was the intention of Reuters going into this story to report it in a manner biased against Israel, cutting out a knife that could have come from anywhere doesn't really mean that much.

    I couldn't see how someone looking at this picture and, even if they even noticed the knife, having a change of opinion either from pro-Israeli or neutral to anti-Israeli or doubting of Israel's story or even a weakening of their opinion of Israel or Israel's actions.
    I have to agree. There's no way to identify ownership of the knife, nor how or by whom it was used (it would seem logical that is WAS used, but we don't even know that for certain). And if the knife hadn't been pointed out, I probably wouldn't have noticed it anyway.

    Beyond this, the image doesn't appear to have been doctored or 'shopped, merely cropped - which might have been done for any number of technical reasons. If Reuters was attempting to make some sort of point by cropping it out, I can't imagine what it could be, and said cropping certainly has no impact on my thoughts about the whole incident. Following this, if Reuters was attempting to make some sort of point by cropping it out, they should be asked to explain their reasoning. Again, it might be something as innocuous as bandwidth/technical issues.

    The underlying point here is: NO ONE KNOWS. So all the tooth-gnashing over "what it means" (if it means anything) is pointless.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Am I missing something here, I see the knife in the had in the original photo, but what 'blood' are they talking about?

    And why would Reuters (the news organization) want to portray the activists as less-violent. At what level in the news-delivery process was the decision to crop the photo made?

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Considering that Reuters usually has a spotless record, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to Reuters and say it was accidental. Frankly I wouldn't have seen the knife if someone hadn't pointed it out.

    Honestly I dont see what Reuters would gain by intentionally cropping the image
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