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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    But let us center on the Reuters cropping anyway.
    The cropping is quite consistant with the editorial policy and style of rhetoric, both of which indulge in shaping opinion more than reporting facts. If you study the use of verbs by taking into account active vs. passive tense, study the use of adjectives in terms of the emotional response they deliver, look at what they omit in their reports vs. what they include, notice how the issues are framed, and look at the way they portray cause and effect, it all adds up. The bias is clear.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Fox News cropping pictures.

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    Fox News distorting pictures

    Fox News Gives NY Times Reporters Yellow Teeth, Big Nose

    Seriously, the fake outrage against Reuters by Fox News and the conservative right, when their own media organisation in Fox News does it constantly is.... so ironic, not to mention highly biased for the "fair and balanced" network.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The cropping is quite consistant with the editorial policy and style of rhetoric, both of which indulge in shaping opinion more than reporting facts. If you study the use of verbs by taking into account active vs. passive tense, study the use of adjectives in terms of the emotional response they deliver, look at what they omit in their reports vs. what they include, notice how the issues are framed, and look at the way they portray cause and effect, it all adds up. The bias is clear.
    I would love to see an analysis of that, not because I doubt you don't get wrong, I just want to know if you have a link to one or can provide it.

    And Petey, I love you man but all the "Well they do it" arguments doesn't really prove or support anything, FOX may be a hypocrite for talking about cropped photos, but it doesn't make what Reuters did any less true.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    So back on topic... How does everything think the removal, or addition, of that knife from the picture could possibly influence anyone's opinion in any way?
    You can't figure that out on your own?

    It should be obvious. The fantasy being sold is that the big, bad Joos just killed all these defenseless "humanitarians". Dishonest propagandists here have called it an "execution style" killing. Removing the knife from the hand of the Islamist in question supports this fantasy. So does the refusal to show the original footage of what actually happened.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The cropping is quite consistant with the editorial policy and style of rhetoric, both of which indulge in shaping opinion more than reporting facts. If you study the use of verbs by taking into account active vs. passive tense, study the use of adjectives in terms of the emotional response they deliver, look at what they omit in their reports vs. what they include, notice how the issues are framed, and look at the way they portray cause and effect, it all adds up. The bias is clear.
    I think that if this was occurring only once I'd let it go, but Reuters has done that three times - which pretty much makes it very likely that there is a political agenda behind those actions.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I would love to see an analysis of that, not because I doubt you don't get wrong, I just want to know if you have a link to one or can provide it.

    And Petey, I love you man but all the "Well they do it" arguments doesn't really prove or support anything, FOX may be a hypocrite for talking about cropped photos, but it doesn't make what Reuters did any less true.
    Not it does not I admit that. Reuters should not have done it. But the credibility of the whistle blower and the motive is very much an issue here. It is not like Fox News is unbiased on this issue is it now...And that is what is the problem. This case is being blown out of proportions because it happens to fit in the Fox News view of that media are biased against Israel and that is rich coming for a news organisation that is biased FOR Israel and highly biased on all other fronts.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Fox News cropping pictures.

    YouTube - The O'Reilly Factor - Adam Lambert gay?

    Fox News distorting pictures

    Fox News Gives NY Times Reporters Yellow Teeth, Big Nose

    Seriously, the fake outrage against Reuters by Fox News and the conservative right, when their own media organisation in Fox News does it constantly is.... so ironic, not to mention highly biased for the "fair and balanced" network.
    If you watched the video from one of your sources you can see the cropping was done to be comical as they put their cropped heads on dogs and other things. This is nothing like hiding facts or cropping out things one's worldview is uncomfortable with admitting is in the picture.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You can't figure that out on your own?

    It should be obvious. The fantasy being sold is that the big, bad Joos just killed all these defenseless "humanitarians". Dishonest propagandists here have called it an "execution style" killing. Removing the knife from the hand of the Islamist in question supports this fantasy. So does the refusal to show the original footage of what actually happened.
    But like I said in any earlier post, you can't tell who is holding it, which side he was on, or where that knife came from. If there goal was to report with a biased against Israel they probably couldnt have picked a more insignificant thing in my opinion to doctor. I'm just not convinced its a big conspiracy, especially one the company as a whole is running.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If you watched the video from one of your sources you can see the cropping was done to be comical as they put their cropped heads on dogs and other things. This is nothing like hiding facts or cropping out things one's worldview is uncomfortable with admitting is in the picture.
    Thanks for pointing that out, you are absolutely right.
    I can't believe that Pete is comparing between cropping for the sake of hiding truths and cropping for the sake of humour.
    How ridiculous.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You can't figure that out on your own?

    It should be obvious. The fantasy being sold is that the big, bad Joos just killed all these defenseless "humanitarians". Dishonest propagandists here have called it an "execution style" killing. Removing the knife from the hand of the Islamist in question supports this fantasy. So does the refusal to show the original footage of what actually happened.
    Sorry but that is the fantasy being promoted by US and Israeli news media and hardly what the rest of the world is saying. In fact the media in Europe is getting all sides of the story including the fact that the protesters were "armed". So having a picture of a man standing with a knife is hardly earth shattering considering the rest of the images and photos already released by the IDF. Like it or not, people have a right to defend themselves when being attacked by armed thugs in international waters.. it is not wise but they have that right.

    Now the big question is... where is all the footage that the IDF seized from the humanitarians? Why has that not been released? Why was it confiscated in the first place? If the IDF is correct in their version then said documentation must prove this no?
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