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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I'll consider actually taking you seriously.

    No, you won't.
    You will find whatever way you can to wiggle free from the suggestion and say, "YOU CAN"T BACK IT UP!"

    Typical.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No, you won't.
    Try me

    You will find whatever way you can to wiggle free from the suggestion and say, "YOU CAN"T BACK IT UP!"

    Typical.
    Yes, how DARE I demand proof of a wild theory
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    When someone relegates to personal insults, it's almost an assured assumption to make that they are not approaching a discussion from a solid position of strength and that this is a failing they are aware of and attempt to compensate for by namecalling and insults to detract from the weakness of their position.

    Feel free to come back when you have an actual point.


    didn't you see the smiley face? It was just ribbing. My God, you demo's have thin skins....


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    Re: Omfg!

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Objective proof. Not Conservative nut wing says so, but show exactly how. Who would think the soldiers just fell down? What in the article said the soldiers fell down? Be honest that you can question the legal of the Israeli attack and not hate them. Not favor Palestine. But for pete's sake at least try to rpoduce something logical.

    Recognizing this, HonestReporting monitored headlines of Reuters news agency reports on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict during the one-month period June 10 - July 10, 2003. This critical period commenced with the Israeli strike against Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi, and ended with the relative calm of the Palestinian hudna.

    During this time frame, Reuters issued headlines describing six acts of violence by Palestinians against Israelis, and twelve acts of violence by Israel against Palestinians. Among these, HonestReporting found the following patterns of bias:

    1) Named subject

    In violent acts against Israelis, the Palestinian agent is named in 33% of the headlines.

    In violent acts against Palestinians, the Israeli agent is named in 100% of the headlines. Moreover, Israel is always emphasized by appearing as the first word in the headline.

    2) Named object

    In violent acts against Israelis, casualties are labeled "Israeli" in 11% of the headlines.

    In violent acts against Palestinians, casualties are labeled "Palestinian" or "Hamas" in 50% of the headlines. Considering "militant" as a Palestinian-specific term raises this figure to 71% of headlines.

    3) Verb selection

    Violent acts by Palestinians are described with "active voice" verbs in 33% of the headlines.

    Violent acts by Israelis are described with "active voice" verbs in 100% of the headlines.

    A few examples of Reuters headlining Israel in ferocious terms:

    "Sharon Vows More Attacks on Militants Despite Talks" (June 15)
    "Israel Threatens New Raids After Anti-Hamas Strike" (June 22)
    "Israeli Army Swoops in Nablus After Security Talks" (June 23)

    Here are three side-by-side comparisons of how Reuters headlines similar violent events involving Israelis and Palestinians:

    Example 1:

    "Israeli Troops Shoot Dead Palestinian in W.Bank" (July 3)
    Israel named as perpetrator; Palestinian named as victim; described in active voice.

    vs.

    "New West Bank Shooting Mars Truce" (July 1)
    Palestinian not named as perpetrator; Israeli not named as victim; shooting described in passive voice.

    Example 2:

    "Israel Kills Three Militants; Gaza Deal Seen Close" (June 27)
    Israel named as perpetrator; Palestinians ("Militants") named as victims; described in active voice.

    vs.

    "Bus Blows Up in Central Jerusalem" (June 11)
    Palestinian not named as perpetrator; Israelis not named as victims; described in passive voice.

    Example 3:

    "Israeli Tank Kills 3 Militants in Gaza - Witnesses" (June 22)
    Israel named as perpetrator; Palestinians ("Militants") named as victims; described in active voice.

    vs.

    "Israeli Girl Killed, Fueling Cycle of Violence" (June 18)
    Palestinian not named as perpetrator; killing described in passive voice.

    Not only acts of violence during this period generated biased Reuters headlines. To describe diplomatic events, Reuters consistently grants Palestinian statements neutral or pleading language, while Israeli positions are described in uncompromising, aggressive terms. Compare:

    Example 1 Palestinians are peaceful, while Israel is belligerent:

    "Palestinian Islamic Militants Declare Truce" (June 29)

    vs.

    "Israel Pours Scorn on Cease-fire with Militants" (June 23)

    Example 2 Palestinians are peaceful, while Israel is belligerent:

    "Palestinians Urge Israel to Free Prisoners" (July 4)

    vs.

    "Israel Sets Tough Terms for Prisoner Release" (July 6)

    A full list of the Reuters headlines, and notes on our method of analysis, may be found by clicking here.

    SUMMARY:

    In the world of Reuters headlines, when Israel acts, Israel is always perpetrating an active assault, and the Palestinian victim is consistently identified. But when Palestinian terrorists act, their Israeli victims are faceless, and the Palestinian perpetrators are rarely named nor described in active terms. Moreover, Palestinian diplomats pursue peace, but are frustrated by their obstinate Israeli counterparts.

    Reuters' obvious message? Israel is the aggressor, and Palestinians are the victims.

    For the past three years, HonestReporting readers have intuitively sensed that Reuters is taking sides in this conflict. HonestReporting's one-month analysis of Reuters' headlines demonstrates that the claim of Reuters' bias is indeed grounded in fact.

    In professional journalism, lack of objectivity is the cardinal sin. As one of the world's most broadly syndicated news agencies, Reuters has tremendous influence on Western perception of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict thereby making its biased stance all the more reprehensible.

    Study: Reuters Headlines

    Also, an interesting look at their bias here....

    More Reuters Bias | Middle East Facts Weblog


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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    didn't you see the smiley face? It was just ribbing. My God, you demo's have thin skins....
    And you seem to have a problem sticking to the topic at hand.

    Come talk to me again when you can prove your claims
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    And you seem to have a problem sticking to the topic at hand.

    Come talk to me again when you can prove your claims
    So, no response to the Headlines bias post?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So, no response to the Headlines bias post?
    Relying on others to do your work for you? Sad, very sad.

    And why should I give time of day to the media analysis that boils down to nothing more than the poster's opinion of what he thinks the headlines mean?
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    Re: Omfg!

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Also, an interesting look at their bias here....

    More Reuters Bias | Middle East Facts Weblog


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    That's so true, and not just for Reuters.
    For example, a BBC headline from yesterday reporting on an incident where Palestinian gunmen have ambushed an Israeli police vehicle while it was on a patrol, murdering an Israeli policeman and injured three others.
    The BBC headline reads: "Israel policeman killed in W Bank".
    No reference to the Palestinians being the perpetrators, no use of active verbs.

    Another BBC headline referring to an incident in the 21st of May 2010, where the IDF has shot and killed two Palestinian(Hamas) gunmen infiltrating Israel from the Israeli-Gazan border, reads: "Israel army kills infiltrators from Gaza".
    Israel stated as the perpetrators, active verbs used, no mentioning of the Palestinians killed being Hamas militants that were sent on an operation to attack Israel. (As Hamas stated after that incident)

    Here are the two articles:
    BBC News - Israel army kills infiltrators from Gaza
    BBC News - Israeli policeman killed in West Bank shooting
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Relying on others to do your work for you? Sad, very sad.

    And why should I give time of day to the media analysis that boils down to nothing more than the poster's opinion of what he thinks the headlines mean?
    And yet you have proven my original assumption to be accurate.

    I hope you at least accidentally pull out some earwax while sticking your fingers in your ears and going, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA".
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    This is a trumped up nonissue. If you take off the political glasses for a second and look at it from an artistic perspective, it is clear that the cropped version is simply better composition. It features the soldier much more centrally, and crops not only the hands of the bystanders on the right but also a portion of the soldier's legs on the left. I know it might be hard for some of you to believe but not everything decision that is made has sinister political motives. Not to mention the guy on the right is holding, what, a steak knife?

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