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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahh, of course.... all that red stuff on the Israeli soldier is lipstick from one of the "peace" passengers aboard the ship.
    Yes -- it's in both pictures. Try to keep up...

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    How am I wrong?

    For one, I didn't claim such facts. I said this is what Isreal has been reporting concerning why they've formed the blockade.

    For another, the raid was reported by several national and international news agencies. Isreali commandos did board the Mavi Marmara. How is that fact incorrect?

    Isreali commandos were injured; the picture clearly shows a man in "commando-style" uniform laying on the deck of the ship bleeding does it not?

    The cropped photo does show atleast one person holding a knife...yes?

    Turkey has been claiming that their men were onboard as peacekeepers, not soilders or terrorist. So, doesn't it beg the question that if they were unarmed why would one of them be holding a knife while standing before an injured Isreali soilder?

    So, what facts are incorrect?

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And why would Reuters (the news organization) want to portray the activists as less-violent.
    Because it improves the victimhood status of the "activists".
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The commandos prepelled down onto the ship via helicopter and opened fire on those they suspected of being part of the PLO or working with them.
    1) The soldiers didn't open fire until very late into the operation, when the soldiers were fired on.
    The soldiers were equipped with non-lethal equipment and a pistol to be used only in the danger of life.
    2) The IDF doesn't simply shoot people it believes are members of the PLO.
    2) What does the PLO has to do with anything about the flotilla's interception? Nothing at all.
    Now, to put things in perspective, there are two issues in questions:

    1) Did the Isreali commandos board the Mavi Marmara in international waters or while it was in Isreali waters?
    International waters of course. International law allows the boarding/attacking of a ship in international waters if its declared purpose is to run a blockade and if it was warned before it.
    2) Were the Turkish men onboard the Mavi Marmara unarmed peacekeepers or were they armed and working with the Palestinian resistance?
    A large group of people on the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish "pleasure" ship, are members of the IHH organization. This organization is believed by many, including the USA, Israel, and a Danish resarch institute to be having ties to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

    The rest of your comment, the parts I haven't quoted, I agree with wholeheartedly.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Because it improves the victimhood status of the "activists".
    Fair enough. Are we talking about Reuter's the organization or someone working on this particular story who made an editorial decision based on personal bias? There have been several posters claiming Reuter's has a record of doing this -- but none include links.

    Also, photos are always cropped to fit a particular template for publication. The idea is to show as much visual information as possible.

    Lastly, in the cropped photo you can clearly see the bloody solider, unarmed, being held down by the activists; the cropped version makes it look like he's kicking and fighting for his life. This in no way makes the activist look like victims--it almost achieves the opposite.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    1) The soldiers didn't open fire until very late into the operation, when the soldiers were fired on.
    The soldiers were equipped with non-lethal equipment and a pistol to be used only in the danger of life.
    2) The IDF doesn't simply shoot people it believes are members of the PLO.
    2) What does the PLO has to do with anything about the flotilla's interception? Nothing at all.
    International waters of course. International law allows the boarding/attacking of a ship in international waters if its declared purpose is to run a blockade and if it was warned before it.
    A large group of people on the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish "pleasure" ship, are members of the IHH organization. This organization is believed by many, including the USA, Israel, and a Danish resarch institute to be having ties to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

    The rest of your comment, the parts I haven't quoted, I agree with wholeheartedly.
    Okay, fair enough. As I said, I wasn't claiming anything as facts...merely stating what has been out there in the media. Glad you were able to shed some light on the subject especially considering your location.

    Thanks...much appreciated.

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Also, photos are always cropped to fit a particular template for publication. The idea is to show as much visual information as possible.
    I see significantly less visual information in the cropped photo. No knife, less blood on the person who is standing over the soldier. There's not much other information of any consequence. A pair of feet and ankles, some type of tubing, no faces except for the blurred out Israeli's face (unless there's one I didn't notice).

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post

    Lastly, in the cropped photo you can clearly see the bloody solider, unarmed, being held down by the activists; the cropped version makes it look like he's kicking and fighting for his life. This in no way makes the activist look like victims--it almost achieves the opposite.
    I don't see that there appears to be any kicking in either photo. Left leg flexed, right leg extended straight out.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Fair enough. Are we talking about Reuter's the organization or someone working on this particular story who made an editorial decision based on personal bias? There have been several posters claiming Reuter's has a record of doing this -- but none include links.
    Reuters admits altering Beirut photo
    ...A Reuters photograph of smoke rising from buildings in Beirut has been withdrawn after coming under attack by American web logs. The blogs accused Reuters of distorting the photograph to include more smoke and damage. The photograph showed two very heavy plumes of black smoke billowing from buildings in Beirut after an Air Force attack on the Lebanese capital. Reuters has since withdrawn the photograph from its website, along a message admitting that the image was distorted, and an apology to editors....

    Reuters Caught with Doctored Lebanon Photo.... Again
    ...You would think that Reuters learned its lesson about publishing to the world photos doctored to create a false image. After all, they were caught with multiple false photos from Lebanon, and had to take down more than 900 images from one stringer. Reuters promised it would have "experienced editors" look at all such photos in the future. Has Reuters kept that promise? Apparently not.

    Your Weekly Dose of Reuters Bias

    and so forth. i mean, is this really surprising to anyone?

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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hey not my fault your media are pathetic in reporting the facts. That the US media gobbles up every word the IDF states is not my fault. Ever heard of balanced reporting? We get that in Europe.. we get reports from both sides and get to make up our own minds.
    Yeah, us hillbillies here in the good ole US of A don't have access to Reuters. That explains the fact that Americans in this thread have seen the Reuters photos in question.
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    Re: Reuters Admits Cropping Photos of Ship Clash, Denies Political Motive

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Lastly, in the cropped photo you can clearly see the bloody solider, unarmed, being held down by the activists; the cropped version makes it look like he's kicking and fighting for his life. This in no way makes the activist look like victims--it almost achieves the opposite.
    In both photos, what I see is non-murderous activists intervening on the soldier's behalf when they realized that some 'activists' on board were actually bent on murder and the chatter beforehand wasn't just rhetoric. The (would-be) murderers, being unable to turn on their actual-activist escorts, stand by and hope they've struck a fatal blow.

    I think some of the activists said "no, we are not executing people", or at least I hope they did at some point(s) during the event. Perhaps the 'activist' casualties are concentrated in other areas of the boat and not at this location.

    I think some people are helping him. Noone is kicking or hitting him, and he doesn't show capability of any real resistence. But he lived, we know that. If they're attacking him, how does he live? If they were intent to kill him, it would be impossible to shoot them all before they do.
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