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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    yes quite possibly, but you would think he/she could lead us to more concrete numbers.
    I don't think those numbers will be fully known for a while.

    What I'm interested in seeing is if this ends up benefiting Arizona economically or damaging them economically.

    Legal businesses will surely suffer from fewer patrons, and if legal Hispanic residents are leaving in large numbers as well, I anticipate that the effect wil be greatly magnified.

    I'd laugh my ass off if this ends up doing major harm to Arizona's economy.
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The desired effect is to chase away hispanics?

    I thought it was about illegal immigrants. According to the story, the exodus is not limited to illegals.
    Seeing how proillegals like to use the racist tactic of lumping illegals in with legal immigrants they probably did the same thing with by lumping all illegals with all Hispanics. Or they could be talking about illegals and those who harbor and aid illegals.
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how proillegals like to use the racist tactic of lumping illegals in with legal immigrants they probably did the same thing with by lumping all illegals with all Hispanics. Or they could be talking about illegals and those who harbor and aid illegals.
    How is lumping illegal immigrants with legal immigrants racist?
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If the law is not discriminatory at all, yet there is this mass exodus; it is the fault of those who passed the laws and who supported the laws for not explaining the dynamics of the law.
    Or... it is the fault of those that have lied about and mischaracterized the law, many times without bothering to read it. Obama, Holder, and Neapolitano come to mind.

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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How is lumping illegal immigrants with legal immigrants racist?
    Isn't considered racist to lump all groups of people into a stereotype like for example all immigrants are illegals or all illegals are immigrants? I would think anyone why came here legally would be highly offended being lumped together with criminals. What if we lumped all Europeans with Eurotrash and simply just called them Eurotrash?
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So you don't care how many innocents get caught up so long as you can get after your percieved threat. And you're willing to use any and all government force necessary to accomplish the job; against the innocent and guilty a like. Nice, real nice. Fascism, just so you're aware, never ends any place good. Sure right now you're going after the hispanics, but you've no guarantee it will stop with that group.
    Hyperbole much?

    If you are of Hispanic decent, but here legally/citizen and you "flee" Arizona... you're an idiot that fell for the fear spin in the Media.

    As long as they head WEST to Cali, and not East to Texas, I say good for Arizona. Less illegals, and a reduction in stupid residents. It's win/win!
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hyperbole much?

    If you are of Hispanic decent, but here legally/citizen and you "flee" Arizona... you're an idiot that fell for the fear spin in the Media.

    As long as they head WEST to Cali, and not East to Texas, I say good for Arizona. Less illegals, and a reduction in stupid residents. It's win/win!
    There is some reason for concern. Source: Arizona’s ‘Papers Please’ Law | FactCheck.org

    * The amended law allows police to consider "race, color or national origin" when deciding whether to ask somebody for proof of citizenship, but only to the extent already deemed constitutional by the courts.

    * It remains to be seen how police will interpret the law’s anti-profiling language in practice. State officials tell us they have yet to work out what factors police should be trained to use to establish "reasonable suspicion" of illegal status.

    * Federal officials are open to criticisms similar to some of those being made about Arizona’s law. A federal manual for training state and local officials says they may consider whether a person has a "thick foreign accent" or looks "out of place" when deciding whether to ask them about their immigration status.
    So what we have is profiling allowed to an extent, as allowed under federal law but mostly unenforced at the current time. How police will be trained on the subject has not yet been worked out.
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hyperbole much?
    No, maybe you should go look up what that word means before you try to run your mouth about it again. Kinda makes your last statement in that post of yours a bit ironic. But regardless, the response was to a post in which the sentiment was expressed that he didn't care who fled or got caught up so long as illegals were involved. Read much?
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't considered racist to lump all groups of people into a stereotype like for example all immigrants are illegals or all illegals are immigrants?
    That makes no sense whatsoever.

    All illegals are immigrants. If they weren't immigrants, they couldn't possibly be illegal.

    Legal and illegal are just terms describing the two possible types of immigrants that can exist.

    Legal and illegal are merely subcategories.

    Kind of like how "Ford and "Chevy" would be subcategories of automobiles.

    All fords are automobiles, and all chevys are automobiles, but not all automobiles are fords, nor are they all chevys.
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    Re: Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That makes no sense whatsoever.

    All illegals are immigrants. If they weren't immigrants, they couldn't possibly be illegal.

    Legal and illegal are just terms describing the two possible types of immigrants that can exist.

    Legal and illegal are merely subcategories.

    Kind of like how "Ford and "Chevy" would be subcategories of automobiles.

    All fords are automobiles, and all chevys are automobiles, but not all automobiles are fords, nor are they all chevys.
    If I lump Ford and Chevy together am I autoist?
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