Page 8 of 36 FirstFirst ... 67891018 ... LastLast
Results 71 to 80 of 352

Thread: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

  1. #71
    Cheese
    Aunt Spiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sasnakra
    Last Seen
    09-10-16 @ 06:10 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,433

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Lethal force isn't the appropriate response to rock throwing.
    I agree with you, here - he *knew* it was a rock (so I gather from the article) - so why shoot in response? I think shots shoudl be reserved for more dire situations. He was wrong.

    However. . .(now, note - I do understand the mother's just heartbroken)
    "They killed my little boy and the only thing I ask is for the law" to be applied, Hernandez said sobbing . . .
    Ironic and hypocritical how they'll support breaking laws - and then demand that other laws be applied.

    Can't have it both ways - they either support people being allowed ot break our laws or their support our laws being applied like they're written!
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
    Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow

  2. #72
    Hippie Hater
    texmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas TEXAS
    Last Seen
    08-20-15 @ 01:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    3,969

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Ever heard of less than lethal?
    Yeah. Its called "victim"
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    John Adams

  3. #73
    Student
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Chinle, Arizona
    Last Seen
    11-29-10 @ 03:28 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    276

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Ironic and hypocritical how they'll support breaking laws - and then demand that other laws be applied.

    Can't have it both ways - they either support people being allowed ot break our laws or their support our laws being applied like they're written!
    Some of you have too much of a fetish for the law without independent ethical analysis, even though Jim Crow laws were legal and dissidence in Communist countries was illegal. Did that give moral credence to those laws?

    On the one hand, the woman's interested in application of a law to a situation where a moral wrong was probably committed, whereas illegal immigration or violation of residence conditions apparently doesn't strike that many people as an intuitive moral wrong, considering that conservatives like Jerry say that they would do the same thing if they were in that position.

  4. #74
    Hippie Hater
    texmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas TEXAS
    Last Seen
    08-20-15 @ 01:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    3,969

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    Some of you have too much of a fetish for the law without independent ethical analysis,
    And some people have a disdain for the law because they don't like the ethnic makeup of the people that created it.

    On the one hand, the woman's interested in application of a law to a situation where a moral wrong was probably committed,
    Complete speculation favoring the illegal. Color me shocked.

    whereas illegal immigration or violation of residence conditions apparently doesn't strike that many people as an intuitive moral wrong,
    Actually it does for people who actually care about the law.

    considering that conservatives like Jerry say that they would do the same thing if they were in that position.
    Where is your evidence that he would also break the law instead of immigrating legally? Of course you have none as usual.
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    John Adams

  5. #75
    Student
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Chinle, Arizona
    Last Seen
    11-29-10 @ 03:28 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    276

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Are you really trying to argue with me again when you've ran away every time in the past? So be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And some people have a disdain for the law because they don't like the ethnic makeup of the people that created it.
    What is this? Is this supposed to be an argument, or is it more of your rambling?

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Complete speculation favoring the illegal. Color me shocked.
    This guy was probably native to North America, at the very least. You're just a trespassing foreigner who should be repatriated to Europe, if we were to apply your ideals consistently.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Actually it does for people who actually care about the law.
    Yeah...except with my comments about how laws can be immoral at times untouched, this isn't anything more than a contradiction. It's not a refutation. Maybe you should help the Chinese Communist Party round up dissidents if you think the law's always right.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Where is your evidence that he would also break the law instead of immigrating legally? Of course you have none as usual.
    Well, since there would be no incentive for immigrant to cross remote deserts and die in large numbers doing so if "legal" immigration were easy, I'd expect him or anyone else to do what they had to do when it comes to it.

  6. #76
    Student
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Chinle, Arizona
    Last Seen
    11-29-10 @ 03:28 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    276

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Illegal Mexican killed by Border Patrol - Stormfront

    Why do so many people here regularly find themselves on the same side of issues as Stormfront? I know that tex would be a Father Coughlin devotee and supporter of Japanese internment back in the day, and it wouldn't surprise me if he had company.

  7. #77
    Sage
    mike2810's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    arizona
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    15,028

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Cochise,
    You do make an interesting read. I just disagree with about 100% of what you post. Not sure where you came up with your views of the world and what you think is moral or not.
    "I can explain it to you but, I can't understand it for you"

  8. #78
    Hippie Hater
    texmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas TEXAS
    Last Seen
    08-20-15 @ 01:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    3,969

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    Are you really trying to argue with me again when you've ran away every time in the past? So be it.
    You keep claiming that and I keep replying to you. Funny how that works.

    What is this? Is this supposed to be an argument, or is it more of your rambling?
    No just exposing your past statements.

    Go ahead and deny it. I'll quote you directly yet again.

    This guy was probably native to North America, at the very least. You're just a trespassing foreigner who should be repatriated to Europe, if we were to apply your ideals consistently.
    I'm not the one claiming the law shouldn't apply because Aztlán thinks the land was "stolen". That would be you. I actually think the law should apply to all races and no one is exempt. That's where we differ.

    Yeah...except with my comments about how laws can be immoral at times untouched, this isn't anything more than a contradiction. It's not a refutation. Maybe you should help the Chinese Communist Party round up dissidents if you think the law's always right.
    Thanks for proving once again you wish to impose your own morality to accept circumventing the law.

    Well, since there would be no incentive for immigrant to cross remote deserts and die in large numbers doing so if "legal" immigration were easy, I'd expect him or anyone else to do what they had to do when it comes to it.
    So you based your assumption he would violate the law based on your own lack of morality. Got it.

    Explain why should it be easy to immigrate. Go ahead. Or should it only be easy for people who had their land "stolen" by evil whitey.
    Last edited by texmaster; 06-09-10 at 02:19 AM.
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    John Adams

  9. #79
    Hippie Hater
    texmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas TEXAS
    Last Seen
    08-20-15 @ 01:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    3,969

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    Illegal Mexican killed by Border Patrol - Stormfront

    Why do so many people here regularly find themselves on the same side of issues as Stormfront? I know that tex would be a Father Coughlin devotee and supporter of Japanese internment back in the day, and it wouldn't surprise me if he had company.
    And why do people like you find themselves on the same side as Aztlán and La Reconquista?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-122222-1672r/

    I love it how you keep bringing up Stormfront when I've said repeatedly I'm not against legal immigration just illegal.

    Once again your dishonesty rears its ugly head.
    Last edited by texmaster; 06-09-10 at 02:24 AM.
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    John Adams

  10. #80
    Dungeon Master
    Veni, vidi, dormivi!

    spud_meister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Didjabringabeeralong
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    33,877
    Blog Entries
    8

    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    its a shame the kid died, i'm sure the patrol could have used better judgement, but if you're stupid enough to throw rocks at armed men, maybe its better you're out of the gene pool.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

Page 8 of 36 FirstFirst ... 67891018 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •