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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Then maybe the rules should change.
    I'm against the taking of life, unless their is a clear and present danger. And I'm sorry, throwing rocks from 30 yards isn't life threatening.
    really? I threw a pretty good fastball at 15 and my little brother was starting on his HS team as a pitcher at that age-he dropped BB for track but he was throwing near 80MPH. you wanna catch a rock in the face 30 yards out



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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Haven't read all the details of this particular event.

    But if I am the cop this is not going to be complicated. If a group of individuals are throwing rocks at me, I am going to draw my weapon. Then I am going to command that they stop throwing the rocks. If they decline to obey my command I am going to take action which prevents them from continuing to throw the rocks. Center mass. Mitigate their behavior.

    Whether the cop is on the US side or on the Mexican side, the concept/guideline would not change.

    Individuals take responsibility for their actions. This ain't rocket science....


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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

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    Against kids with rocks they should.
    Any evidence at the time of the incident, that ANY ONE of the rock throwers might not have been packing? Not a good siuation in which to break out the old bean bags.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

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    Lethal force isn't the appropriate response to rock throwing.
    How do you know? Do you work in law enforcement?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How do you know? Do you work in law enforcement?
    feeling is sufficient for liberals. no experience or facts needed



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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by sparks View Post
    I'm disappointed that ANYONE had to die for something that, at least at first, would not require lethal use of force. And if incidents like this happen repeatedly, as they've started to, then maybe the bike patrols should be given some non-lethal projectiles to carry if they don't already.
    What the hell are border patrol officers doing on bikes? The border is a war zone. I am pissed because they were not in a real vehicle. Deadly force begits deadly force.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You should read the article first. This was a bike patrol, they don't really carry a lot of "Anti-idiot" gear with them.
    Obviously, I was responding specifically to your asinine comment about what law enforcement does or doen't carry. (but I think you knew that)

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That is for movies. Real Life you don't carry less then lethal equipment to deal with a group of people stupid enough to thrown stones at armed law enforcement officers.
    yes, in real life police carry non-lethal weapons to deal groups of people throwing stones.

    You are wrong.

    T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents are common and capable of causing serious injury.
    "It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.
    Same source as above
    So, a Union spokesman named T.J. said this was a clean shoot and that's it?? You're kidding, right?

    Again, sorry, that's not how it work, Vicchio.

    The officer that fired his weapon in self-defense also acted professionally.
    That's right, I forgot... You were there. (not)

    Just calm down and wait for the shooting review. I got some news for you, unless he was legitimately boxed in, this guy is going to have to make a case why he didn't ride off to safe location and then call for backup.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Law enforcement officials don't have the luxury of weighing what situation is potentially lethal to them or not. They are taught to deal with a threat one way. The teenagers could very easily have pulled out handguns and shot the border patrol agents rather than them thowing rocks. Law enforcement did what they were trained to do and I have no problem with that at the end of the day.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    I agree we should wait for the shooting review report before passing any judgement on the BP. IMO, the crowd and the teenager are at least partially to blame. No rock throwing, no incident. I like to go by inocent till proven guilty. I'm sorry that there was a loss of life. Wonder how the reaction by those jumping on the BP would be if the agent was the one killed.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Problem is the Border Patrol hasn't killed enough people lately. They need to shoot a few hundred more. Any ****er trying to illegally cross the border who is dumb enough to throw rocks at an armed man needs to be ****ing shot before he's living next door to you.
    Damn straight. They needed to mow down the wetbacks as soon as they started coming across the Atlantic Ocean.

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