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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Two hands, one hand...

    If its a pistol, wtf is the difference?

    Im just in a lowly city department and we train to shoot our firearms with one hand......
    Holding on to his suspect shows his life was never really in danger. If they train you to hold onto the suspect while defending yourself from legitimate life threatening situations, they should be shot.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    This is about excessive use of force against a civilian.
    So, now you are, the self appointed judge and jury. lol

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    So, now you are, the self appointed judge and jury. lol
    No, he's arguing that just because this person is a border patrol agent doesn't mean that they should not face an actual judge and jury.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    So, now you are, the self appointed judge and jury. lol
    Can you show me where I made any such statement? No? Didn't think so.

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I'm more interested in US politics than Mexican politics. It's not my place to tell the Mexican government what I think they should be doing, it is my place to tell my own government how I think they should behave.
    Hey, I gotta suggestion. Telling "your" government how they should behave...

    Instead of bullets, YOUR OWN government should supply, the BP with their own rocks, bricks, toilet handles, hammers, cue balls, etc... You know, just so, the BP won't have to resort to "lethal/deadly" force.

    We could save lives and show some American PC worldwide

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    I think the important part of this story is the fact that the officer can shoot if he feels his life is in danger.

    From the video I saw it looked as if the kid that got shot was far enough away to not be able to hit the officer with rocks if he was throwing them.

    If the argument was that others were throwing rocks so it is ok to shoot a kid that was not throwing rocks, even though he had thrown rocks previously, that is wrong.

    Refference has been made to a video showing guys throwing rocks at close range while an officer is trying to detain another. That video was from 2007 I beleive and does not pertain to this situation.

    At the moment the officer pointed his gun and shot there were no rocks heading his way. He had another in his hand and then pointed the gun.

    Yes an investigation needs to be done to see what really happened.

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Hey, I gotta suggestion. Telling "your" government how they should behave...

    Instead of bullets, YOUR OWN government should supply, the BP with their own rocks, bricks, toilet handles, hammers, cue balls, etc... You know, just so, the BP won't have to resort to "lethal/deadly" force.

    We could save lives and show some American PC worldwide
    Why on Earth should the government provide something that Nature has already provided within easy reach?
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Well based on the video...

    YouTube - Mexico Teen Shot on Tape

    This officer was not in near enough danger to warrant live fire. If these border patrol agents want to fight back against teens throwing rocks, they need to be given a gun with rubber bullets or other less lethal weapons. Large rocks, or large amounts of rocks can kill. Yes of course. But this is not one of those situations where the officers life appeared to be threatened.

    I know the border agents have a tough job and very often get a bad wrap. However, I just don't see justification in this incident. Make sure you aren't just backing the border patrol out of habit. There are times when people protecting this nation have gone too far, and it appears this is one of those times.

    So for me, unless more information is revealed later, the border agent is at fault and should be held accountable for his actions.
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