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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    And to settle Tucker is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY full of ****, I present to you the following:

    Can Border Patrol Shoot Into Mexico?
    Can Border Patrol Shoot Into Mexico? | KTSM News Channel 9

    By Oralia Ortega - Main Anchor
    Wednesday, June 9, 2010 - 9:20pm
    It's been reported that Border Patrol agents don't have the right to shoot into Mexico.

    Tonight we've learned that's not true. Border Patrol says there is no such policy that says agents can't shoot into Mexico.
    IF you follow the link, you'll see there is even a nice video on the issue.

    Tucker, you lose, and lose badly. So how about you admit your opinions are wrong, and that you have been in great error this entire thread.

    And a previous incident of beer bottles and rocks resulting in shots fired:

    http://www.themonitor.com/articles/s...der-fires.html
    Last edited by Renae; 06-13-10 at 06:00 PM.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And to settle Tucker is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY full of ****, I present to you the following:


    Can Border Patrol Shoot Into Mexico? | KTSM News Channel 9



    IF you follow the link, you'll see there is even a nice video on the issue.

    Tucker, you lose, and lose badly. So how about you admit your opinions are wrong, and that you have been in great error this entire thread.

    And a previous incident of beer bottles and rocks resulting in shots fired:

    Border Patrol fires shots into Mexico | shots, border, fires - Now - TheMonitor.com
    LOL wow. Open and shut ownage. Even with the rest of his posts and my replies mysteriously "disappearing" from this thread, thats the nail in the coffin.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    That was the first time a had seen a version of the video with the color graphic additions. Made the action much easier to follow.

    Believe that "yellow line" just before the kid got shot was supposed to be representing the US/Mexican border line. If it is accurate it paints a pretty good summary of who was where as the event transpired....


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    It's a **** video. Word is the FBI has tapes from the US Side taht show everything, including the rocks.. and a much clearer view of the action.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Even with the rest of his posts and my replies mysteriously "disappearing" from this thread, thats the nail in the coffin.
    Nothing disappeared. That was my mistake. It was another thread with a similar name.
    Last edited by texmaster; 06-13-10 at 08:08 PM.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And to settle Tucker is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY full of ****, I present to you the following:


    Can Border Patrol Shoot Into Mexico? | KTSM News Channel 9



    IF you follow the link, you'll see there is even a nice video on the issue.

    Tucker, you lose, and lose badly. So how about you admit your opinions are wrong, and that you have been in great error this entire thread.

    And a previous incident of beer bottles and rocks resulting in shots fired:

    Border Patrol fires shots into Mexico | shots, border, fires - Now - TheMonitor.com
    I can't understand how you can insult so many people without getting banned.

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So what you are suggesting is that they can attack from the other side of the border and we shouldn't be capable of doing a damn thing?

    That they can make our border patrol retreat off of the border via weapons?
    No. I'm not saying that. That is a strawman.

    My argument is entirely about rocks being thrown over the broder not being a legitimate enough threat to warrant lethal force against someone on the Mexican side of the broder. As range increases, the danger form thrown rocks decreases dramatically. The border agent has the option to retreat a short distance in order to protect themselves.

    If the person throwing rocks chooses to close the distance in order to increase teh efficacy of th erocks, they will have to cross the border. At that point, lethal force is warranted because they are pressing the issue.

    If these were a more effective weapon, then the border agent has every right to shoot over the border, IMO. If these kids were on the Mexican side of th eborder and had pointed a gun or a crossbow, or a bow and arrow or some other weapon where a leisurely saunter backwards would not have been enough to offer protection, then the border agent is fully justified to use lethal force in response.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh and why did you delete all those posts in this thread? That is a great question...
    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I'd be happy to show where you said it but conviently, ALL your posts and ALL of my replies to you have been REMOVED from this thread.

    I've heard of whitewashing dude but you take the cake.
    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Nothing disappeared. That was my mistake. It was another thread with a similar name.
    : Don't worry. I'm used to people making ignorant accusations against me without any legitimate proof. No reason to actually apologize for making them.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I can't understand how you can insult so many people without getting banned.
    Considering the level of things around here you don't understand, this is not surprising. I am not insulting Tucker, I am lambasting his arrogance and ego with facts that refute him completely.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    : Don't worry. I'm used to people making ignorant accusations against me without any legitimate proof. No reason to actually apologize for making them.
    And we're used to you losing debates and ignoring the fact you were proven completely wrong. Next.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And to settle Tucker is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY full of ****, I present to you the following:


    Can Border Patrol Shoot Into Mexico? | KTSM News Channel 9



    IF you follow the link, you'll see there is even a nice video on the issue.

    Tucker, you lose, and lose badly. So how about you admit your opinions are wrong, and that you have been in great error this entire thread.

    And a previous incident of beer bottles and rocks resulting in shots fired:

    Border Patrol fires shots into Mexico | shots, border, fires - Now - TheMonitor.com
    That doesn't counter my points.

    I'm arguing the "great discretion" aspect in this particular case. I am saying that the agent in this particular case did not use "great discretion".

    Like I said before, if you don't understand what I'm saying, you aren't equipped with the necessary tools to claim that I'm wrong. What you think is proving me wrong is only solidifying my specific argument.
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