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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, if the SCOTUS overturns the AZ law, it would likely have to overturn the US Code as well....very unlikely.


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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    HEY! Where did YOU study Constitutional Law at eh? Haz is an expert man, he knows! HE KNOWS!!!

    (And he fails to give any examples or reasons, but he KNOWS MAN)

    I know, there are alot of internet experts out there. But I am just sayin' The AZ law is modeled on and even uses express language of the US Code. Sooooooo.


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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I know, there are alot of internet experts out there. But I am just sayin' The AZ law is modeled on and even uses express language of the US Code. Sooooooo.


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    Sooooooooo......... the lefties don't like it, it might cut back on their future voter base.

    Sooooooooo......... it must be unconstitutional.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

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    Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger highThis is not a thread about the Arizona Immigration Law. Get back on topic people

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I see this all the time here in Mexico. The mother cries after her son is killed because of her failure to teach her son to respect the law and other people. 100% her fault.

    I will give you an example.

    My ex-girlfriends cousin found out his girlfriend went out with another guy, so what does he do? He takes a gun to the other guys house. He confronts the guy with the gun but as he is squeezing the trigger, the other guy also had his gun and got a shot off and both of them died on the spot. 2 men dead over this woman.

    My girlfriends family, the guys mother and sisters were screaming and crying at the wake, and all I could think was "It is a little late for all this emotion. A little bit of teaching the right thing would have saved his life" It all seemed fake to me.
    While I see hypocrisy in how they value and respect our own laws. I don't feel it was under her control at all - there was nothing she could have done to prevent it. Absolutely not her fault.

    Regardless of what country you live in, how much money you make or what language you speak or even how strict you are one fact remains constant - children are children and will do what they damn well please.

    Whether she gave permission for the boy to go see his brother or not is beside the point - you can't keep your children as prisoner's in your own home to avoid any chance that they might stir the pot while they're out of your sight.

    The cop was way out of line. The boys could have been punished - and quite alive to learn his lesson. This entire situation should never have happened like this and things will just get worse, not better.
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    While I see hypocrisy in how they value and respect our own laws. I don't feel it was under her control at all - there was nothing she could have done to prevent it. Absolutely not her fault.

    Regardless of what country you live in, how much money you make or what language you speak or even how strict you are one fact remains constant - children are children and will do what they damn well please.

    Whether she gave permission for the boy to go see his brother or not is beside the point - you can't keep your children as prisoner's in your own home to avoid any chance that they might stir the pot while they're out of your sight.

    The cop was way out of line. The boys could have been punished - and quite alive to learn his lesson. This entire situation should never have happened like this and things will just get worse, not better.
    Were you answering what I posted? What brother are you talking about?

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    If one wants to assign blame to anyone besides the persons that were directly involved....... blame the US government for not enforcing the current laws, all it does is encourage the Illegal Aliens to come here and disrespect the laws of this country and those whose duty it is to enforce them.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    If one wants to assign blame to anyone besides the persons that were directly involved....... blame the US government for not enforcing the current laws, all it does is encourage the Illegal Aliens to come here and disrespect the laws of this country and those whose duty it is to enforce them.
    If you want to blame somebody, blame yourself. The US government is your duty, you've not been paying close enough attention. If you didn't like this illegal immigration thing, or thought the government wasn't doing it's job; it's up to you to apply pressure to the government to get that change. And how much have you purchased which rewarded companies for hiring illegal immigrants? Hmmm?

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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Were you answering what I posted? What brother are you talking about?
    I should have bolded the line that I was responding to in your post - you said:
    The mother cries after her son is killed because of her failure to teach her son to respect the law and other people. 100% her fault.
    From the article:
    The boy's mother said he had gone to eat with his brother, who handles luggage at a border customs office. While there, he met up with a group of friends and they decided to hang out by the river, she said.
    So - you're blaming this entire incident on her when I see that it was out of her control completely. Unless a parent is going to chain their child up in their room for their entire life they don't have 100% control over what their children do when they're on their own.

    Kids do things all the time that they're told not to do.

    Maybe she did tell him "don't go down *that* way" and expected him to listen?
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    Re: Mexico teen killed by US Border Patrol, anger high

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You're trying to compare immigration laws to Jim Crow laws?
    They're no where near the same scope, that's for sure.
    Uh, no. I'm showing why it's a mistake to try and justify something because of its legality, which doesn't necessarily mean that it's moral. Similarly, illegality does not mean that something's immoral.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    If she wants us to uphold OUR laws in this case then by all means we should be balanced and uphold ALL OTHER laws, as well - which means the AZ immigration law that's under fire and our federal laws regulating immigration, as well.
    He was shot in Mexico, so it's still a matter of investigation into exactly what happened. But this is just repetition of the same thing you said before, when I already said that laws clearly intended to enforce moral rules should be distinguished from laws that may conflict with ethics.

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