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    Poland castration law takes effect

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    Quote(A Polish law that can force some rapists and paedophiles to undergo chemical castration has come into effect.

    The legislation, passed by Polish MPs last September, applies to men who rape children or immediate family members.)

    IMO this would be an excellent Law for the US to adopt.

    It should also be used by the Holy Roman catholic Church for ALL their priests, perhaps we would then be regaled with fewer instances of those disgusting people engaging their sexual fantasies on children not only within the US but also worldwide.

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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    It's a good law if humanity was perfect... but in case you haven't noticed we're a far cry from it.... you wanna add castration to the equation to make a possible wrongful conviction irrevocable?

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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    From my understanding, they wouldn't actually lop off the offending private parts, but they'd use a drug that prevents someone from getting an erection. I believe that the effects can be reversed if one is taken off the drug.
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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    As much as I like the idea, I can't be against the death penalty, and be for this. So no, not in this country.

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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    Chemical castration isn't really castration. It's more like putting a man on birth control pills. Essentially, they lose libido and the ability to get an erection. It's caused by drugs people must take, and if they don't take them the effects will ware off. Chemical castration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    Preventing a rapist or pedophile from getting an erection would not stop them from raping.
    Many have erectile/ sexual dysfunctions to begin with.
    Rape is about power, not sex.
    If you castrated them, they'd just continue to rape victims using objects.

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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    If you castrated them, they'd just continue to rape victims using objects.
    The nice thing about castrating someone is that it doesn't prevent you from killing them afterward.

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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    Having learned a bit about this "chemical castration" bit in another thread, my opinion is as follows:

    Chemical castration is a completely pointless punishment method.

    A few reasons:

    1. It is completely temporary, and prevents nothing except the sexual functions of a male. IF it works for all males, which I’m not positive either way about.
    2. While some rapists/rapes may be motivated partially by sexual urges, as I understand it the majority are motivated by the power and control it gives them over their targets. This method would seem to have no effect on that.
    3. As far as I am aware, it doesn’t have any effect on female rapists (female rapists are the minority, but still…).


    So, basically, I think this is stupid and a waste of funds – But if Poland wants to do it, perhaps we’ll get some actual data on how such a measure works as a punishment method.

    Now, actual physical castration - Might work better, but it still has some of the same issues.
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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    [*]It is completely temporary, and prevents nothing except the sexual functions of a male. IF it works for all males, which I’m not positive either way about.
    Of course it's temporary; that's the whole point. If it was permanent, it would be much crueler. And I think I've read before (too lazy to look for a source to verify this) that the recidivism rate for people undergoing chemical castration is extremely low.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark
    [*]While some rapists/rapes may be motivated partially by sexual urges, as I understand it the majority are motivated by the power and control it gives them over their targets. This method would seem to have no effect on that.
    Well, it's motivated by "power" to the extent that the rapist is sexually aroused by dominating someone. So if their sexual arousal was inhibited, it would stand to reason that they probably wouldn't care that much about exercising that power anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark
    [*]As far as I am aware, it doesn’t have any effect on female rapists (female rapists are the minority, but still…).
    That's no reason it shouldn't be used for the other 99% of rapists who aren't female.

    IMO, "chemical castration" is a misnomer that is very unfortunate, because it makes the punishment sound a lot crueler than it actually is. Basically it just suppresses their sex drive. I don't have any problem with it, and I'm generally appalled by the severity of criminal sentences.
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    Re: Poland castration law takes effect

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Of course it's temporary; that's the whole point. If it was permanent, it would be much crueler. And I think I've read before (too lazy to look for a source to verify this) that the recidivism rate for people undergoing chemical castration is extremely low.
    Interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, it's motivated by "power" to the extent that the rapist is sexually aroused by dominating someone. So if their sexual arousal was inhibited, it would stand to reason that they probably wouldn't care that much about exercising that power anymore.
    That's not how I understood it. Of course, I don't know all that much about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That's no reason it shouldn't be used for the other 99% of rapists who aren't female.
    If it is effective in preventing further crimes, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    IMO, "chemical castration" is a misnomer that is very unfortunate, because it makes the punishment sound a lot crueler than it actually is. Basically it just suppresses their sex drive. I don't have any problem with it, and I'm generally appalled by the severity of criminal sentences.
    Well, if it is effective in preventing further rapine (perhaps not the correct word.../shrug) by the rapists it is applied to, then I will have little issue with it.

    On the other hand, as I understand it (and perhaps my understanding is faulty), it is not as effective as you make it out to be.
    IF it is only marginally effective, and other methods would be more effective, then it would seem to be a waste of time.

    And the severity of criminal sentences should not even be an issue here. I might easily be convinced to condone extensive torture in the case of a rapist. Although of course that is too extreme, that is my feeling on the matter.
    The only thing lower than a rapist in my book is a child rapist.
    Last edited by The Mark; 06-08-10 at 09:43 PM.
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