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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not eh place of the US President to say something like that. The point is he's not being Presidential at all. It's okay for a Jr. House member to shoot of remarks like this, even a rookie Senator. Leader of the Freeworld? No.
    And I'm sure that you would never dream of criticizing Obama for being too soft if he HADN'T made those remarks, right? Of course not. The purpose of this thread is obviously a principled objection to a president commenting on a business' affairs, rather than retarded partisan hackery. Carry on.
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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    "President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians."

    Yeah I'd say that borders on insanity,
    Source or it didn't happen...

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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

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    Source or it didn't happen...
    Here you go.

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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And I'm sure that you would never dream of criticizing Obama for being too soft if he HADN'T made those remarks, right? Of course not. The purpose of this thread is obviously a principled objection to a president commenting on a business' affairs, rather than retarded partisan hackery. Carry on.
    I don't think the Gov't should be involved as it is with the "Oil Spill". So far all that's done is muck things up even worse.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I don't think the Gov't should be involved as it is with the "Oil Spill". So far all that's done is muck things up even worse.
    So you believe that we should rely solely on the morons who caused disasters in the first place to clean them up? I realize that at this late stage in the game, we might not have any choice for this oil spill. But as a general matter of policy, that's crazy. The government needs to be involved, and it needs better contingency plans for these sort of things...because for all we know, the same thing could happen again tomorrow.
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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So you believe that we should rely solely on the morons who caused disasters in the first place to clean them up?
    First off, never said that. Secondly, "morons who caused disasters in the first place". Do you know the CAUSE of the rig going down? Was it the fault of the BP Officials or an error on platform? Did I miss where the "Cause" was found??

    Note I said "I don't think Gov't should be involved as it is" That does not say "I think Gov't should stay out of this entirely".

    Strawman meet Kandahar... oh you two are dating, I see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I realize that at this late stage in the game, we might not have any choice for this oil spill. But as a general matter of policy, that's crazy. The government needs to be involved, and it needs better contingency plans for these sort of things...because for all we know, the same thing could happen again tomorrow.
    It could happen tomorrow, and the more we look to Gov't to solve the problems, the more they'll screw it up.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    First off, never said that. Secondly, "morons who caused disasters in the first place". Do you know the CAUSE of the rig going down? Was it the fault of the BP Officials or an error on platform? Did I miss where the "Cause" was found??
    If it was caused by an error on the platform, then it is still BP and/or Halliburton's fault. Workers are agents of the company that employs them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio
    Note I said "I don't think Gov't should be involved as it is" That does not say "I think Gov't should stay out of this entirely".

    Strawman meet Kandahar... oh you two are dating, I see.
    How did I misrepresent what you said? You complained about Obama being the "CEO of the world," implying that his involvement is a bad thing. But OK, let's unassume for a moment: You don't want the government out entirely...you just want them LESS involved. So then I have the same question, just replace "rely solely" with "rely primarily."

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio
    It could happen tomorrow, and the more we look to Gov't to solve the problems, the more they'll screw it up.
    So then your solution *is* to rely primarily on the companies that create disasters to clean them up in the future? They are not motivated by preventing as much harm as possible; they are motivated by saving as much money as possible. Those two goals do not always overlap.
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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not eh place of the US President to say something like that. The point is he's not being Presidential at all. It's okay for a Jr. House member to shoot of remarks like this, even a rookie Senator. Leader of the Freeworld? No.

    Lemme get this straight, just so we're all clear on what you're saying:

    During an interview, the President is not allowed to speak hypothetically or make an analogy to illustrate his opinion of a person's job performance?

    So basically, a President can not use the word "if" in the conditional sense.

    Shall we ban metaphors and rhetorical questions as well??

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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    He's not stating that he is in fact going to fire him. He's stating that if he was working for him, he would fire him.
    You can't blame him for that.
    So True, So true, Obama is the PRESIDENT of the U.S.A. NOT THE CEO of the BP OIL COMPANY....
    WHAT IN THE HELL IS HE SUPPOSE TO DO ???? Take a sub-marine or a dive under water and create a miracle of some sort... With all the lies and hiding the real facts of what's going on down under, WHO'S GOT SOME ANSWERS OR SOLUTIONS TO THIS RED LIGHT EMERGENCY !!!!

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    Re: Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Standard Mr. V attacking Obama no matter what he does He could personally come and save you from a burning building and you'd probably still find a way to spin it against him

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    PBO did something? When?!?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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