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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    What gets me is washingtons backpeddling on the lability cap. The current lability cap is 75 million yet washington wants to raise that cap on BP. I dont understand how they believe they can change a law after the fact and expect people to comply.
    You may have a point. Reference: Ex post facto laws are forbidden by the constitution. If it can be proven that the original laws involved bribery of government politicians and officials then maybe the law can be proven to be tainted. Of course the supreme court believes that bribery (lobbying) is freedom of speech, so who knows?

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You may have a point. Reference: Ex post facto laws are forbidden by the constitution. If it can be proven that the original laws involved bribery of government politicians and officials then maybe the law can be proven to be tainted. Of course the supreme court believes that bribery (lobbying) is freedom of speech, so who knows?
    I think Obama who was a constitutional law professor knows what he is proposing is against the law. But most people are ignorant of the law so this is a good stunt by Obama and the democrats. If a republican speaks out about it, then they can sat, see in bed with big oil.

    I guess if they could get people to believe in " change you can believe in" to get a person who speaks well but has no experience at anything meaningful nto be president. Why not go for the gusto and say and do anything you want. Most people don't know what the heck you are saying means anyway.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I think Obama who was a constitutional law professor knows what he is proposing is against the law. But most people are ignorant of the law so this is a good stunt by Obama and the democrats. If a republican speaks out about it, then they can sat, see in bed with big oil.

    I guess if they could get people to believe in " change you can believe in" to get a person who speaks well but has no experience at anything meaningful nto be president. Why not go for the gusto and say and do anything you want. Most people don't know what the heck you are saying means anyway.
    I believe that all of THEM are guilty of demagoguery , the Democrats, the Republicans, and most government officials. The politicians love the country divided because it takes the spotlight off of their corruption and unholy alliances.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I believe that all of THEM are guilty of demagoguery , the Democrats, the Republicans, and most government officials. The politicians love the country divided because it takes the spotlight off of their corruption and unholy alliances.

    The Romans had their Games, we have our internet.
    It is interesting. It seems clear that the American public has been raped by the current political system. Yet we seem to be sheep, totally passive and say what can you do. With a population like that is there any reason to be hopeful that meaningful change can happen here. If not what does that say about the long term prospects for prosperity in the U.S.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    It is interesting. It seems clear that the American public has been raped by the current political system. Yet we seem to be sheep, totally passive and say what can you do. With a population like that is there any reason to be hopeful that meaningful change can happen here. If not what does that say about the long term prospects for prosperity in the U.S.
    Well, I think it depends on whether you are a banker or an ordinary working citizen living from paycheck to paycheck hoping your car does not break down.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Well, I think it depends on whether you are a banker or an ordinary working citizen living from paycheck to paycheck hoping your car does not break down.
    Not sure what you meant by that.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Not sure what you meant by that.
    Put simply, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Put simply, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.
    Simply put that is a defeatist attitiude. Less true than places like Europe for example. The opportunities are out there.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    i really don't see how this could help, if anything, oil companies could adopt the thought of "we pay **** loads of tax, we can't afford that extra blow out preventer"
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

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    Maybe we will start paying for the wars, then.
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