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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I could agree with that. We are woefully unprepared for any sort of environmental disaster. I would add one more thing to your list though: More money so that the EPA can have better enforcement of its drilling regulations.
    Maybe we shouldn't have spent a trillion dollars on bull****?

    This whole thing might have been averted if someone had made sure BP and/or Halliburton were in compliance with the law.
    LOL...you don't know that they weren't. You, along with the rest of us, have zero clue, as to what actually caused that well to blow out. How 'bout we find out, first? Nah, that would make too much sense. It's mor fun to just blame the oil companies and of course, Halliburton.
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    In thier classic style, the Liberals cut off their noses to spite their faces.

    In 2007, the MMS collected $9.4 billion in oil and gas royalties. Why, there's ya money for the next spill!

    But, hey, it really ain't about protecting us...is it?

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

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    Kandahar,

    I don't the problem is a lack of funding, rather, it's a lack of leadership and proper oversight. We have SEC employees surfing porn sites for hours on end, all on the taxpayers dime, and we wonder why they overlooked the impending financial collapse. I suspect the same kind of malfeasance and incompetence is endemic to all Federal bureaucracies.



    I'm reticent to impose further taxes on energy consumption. Nations like England can afford high gas prices because their country is 1/5 the size of Texas. Our entire nation's economy is dependent upon cheap gas. We don't need more taxes, we just need better leadership and accountability.
    Absolutely, but there's always going to be a certain level of waste in any job...especially a government job. I'm all for steps to improve management of those agencies, but the truth is that it's never going to go away entirely. Right now we need more people to investigate these sorts of things. The EPA just doesn't have enough people on staff to closely monitor them.
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Maybe we shouldn't have spent a trillion dollars on bull****?

    I have no idea what you're so pissed off about, but I'm 99% sure it's something retarded and completely irrelevant to the subject at hand, as usual.

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    LOL...you don't know that they weren't. You, along with the rest of us, have zero clue, as to what actually caused that well to blow out. How 'bout we find out, first? Nah, that would make too much sense. It's mor fun to just blame the oil companies and of course, Halliburton.
    You're right, I don't know if they were or not. Which is why I said this whole thing MIGHT have been averted. Learn to read.
    What we do know is that BP has been responsible for over 90% of the EPA's infractions in recent years, including four separate incidents of criminal misconduct; they're the worst of the worst. But it's really not even about BP. Better enforcement might prevent a repeat of this kind of disaster.
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post

    I have no idea what you're so pissed off about, but I'm 99% sure it's something retarded and completely irrelevant to the subject at hand, as usual.
    My point is, perhaps the government shouldn't have spent a trillion dollars on 30 years of Liberal wet dreams and that way, we wouldn't have to raise oil taxes, by 5 times, to pay for a future blow out. If that isn't relevant, then perhaps it isn't I that is retarded, sir.



    You're right, I don't know if they were or not. Which is why I said this whole thing MIGHT have been averted. Learn to read.
    It may have been negligence, sabotage, or a pure-dee-ole-accident. Learn to think.

    What we do know is that BP has been responsible for over 90% of the EPA's infractions in recent years, including four separate incidents of criminal
    I guess that's why the gubmint wanted to give The Horizon a safety award?

    misconduct; they're the worst of the worst. But it's really not even about BP. Better enforcement might prevent a repeat of this kind of disaster.
    Again, you don't have the first goddamn clue as to what happen. You don't know if enforcement would have prevented this blow out.

    I'm not trying to defend BP, by no means, but do you care to back up the claim that they're, "the worst of the worst"? I know of offshore drilling rigs that are using BOP's that are 40+ years old. Wanna tackle that one? I double dog ****in dare ya.
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Maybe we shouldn't have spent a trillion dollars on bull****?



    LOL...you don't know that they weren't. You, along with the rest of us, have zero clue, as to what actually caused that well to blow out. How 'bout we find out, first? Nah, that would make too much sense. It's mor fun to just blame the oil companies and of course, Halliburton.
    It's mor fun to just blame the oil companies and of course, Halliburton.
    Don't forget George Bush, he isn't far behind...lets say with a month perhaps.

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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

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    I would agree to this on these conditions. 100% of the funds raised went to disaster preparedness and spill mitigation. Including funding and equipping the 1994 plan.

    This tax however should only be applied to barrels produced on the gulf.

    None of this tax should be used for anything else.
    I do not think there should be a tax hike on offshore oil drilling because like all business related expenses the consumer ends up paying for those business related expenses somewhere down the road. I do not think any company is going to take a smaller profit margin especially when they sell a product everybody needs.
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I would agree to this on these conditions. 100% of the funds raised went to disaster preparedness and spill mitigation. Including funding and equipping the 1994 plan.

    This tax however should only be applied to barrels produced on the gulf.

    None of this tax should be used for anything else.
    Unfortunately the feds will probably use the money to fund another useless DoI buracracy in Washington filled with cronies who don't know how to spell "oil spill".
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think there should be a tax hike on offshore oil drilling because like all business related expenses the consumer ends up paying for those business related expenses somewhere down the road. I do not think any company is going to take a smaller profit margin especially when they sell a product everybody needs.



    I'm actually fine with an additional 3 cents on my gas if it would prevent this sort of thing.



    Also, Maybe we can shut down the MMS since its irrellevant to this mess and funnel that money into the 1994 plan instead. that may make it 2 cents more expensive...


    I am not for some massive tax, just enough to fund cleanup and mitigation. It's going to cost us a lot more in the long run to clean this mess up as it is now.


    That's my point.
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    Re: Democrats propose further tax hike on offshore oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I'm actually fine with an additional 3 cents on my gas if it would prevent this sort of thing.



    Also, Maybe we can shut down the MMS since its irrellevant to this mess and funnel that money into the 1994 plan instead. that may make it 2 cents more expensive...


    I am not for some massive tax, just enough to fund cleanup and mitigation. It's going to cost us a lot more in the long run to clean this mess up as it is now.


    That's my point.
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