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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Darfur is muslim on muslim/animist violence.

    Specifically it is ethnically Arabic nomadic tribes going against ethnically black african groups in Darfur over access to natural resources like water.

    Christians not involved to any degree at all in Darfur
    No, the conflict is between Muslims who are of more Arab decent and black Africans who are Christians and animists (traditional religions for the region). The Muslims in the north want to enslave and subjugate the black Africans who are non Muslim. They see the non Muslims as inferior racially and as pagans that must be enslaved as the Koran dictates. The conflict centers around race and religion, with the Arab Muslims wanting to take over a country and enslave the black non Muslims. Christianity is also one of the fastest growing religions in south Sudan as well.
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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Daufur?


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    seriously though, its sad how something like this was used as a political football to attack those who were not against the Iraq war only to be tossed aside like yesterday's brittney escapade once thier man was elected.
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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    For me at least, Africa would be an adventurer's paradise.
    I wish I could afford to go, even with the danger of some areas, it would totally be worth it.
    So while a genocide is being committed, you'd like to go be a tourist and have an adventure? That's nice to know.

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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Sudan or all of Africa in general is in absolute mayhem, murder over there is standard operational procedure besides no one like Americans anymore. I believe the world community is bitching because we stick our noses where it doesn't belong.
    Well, there is one country in Africa where we are sticking our noses in....

    Published on 07/06/2010

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    Leaders opposed to the Proposed Constitution have defended themselves against claims they are opposed to having a constitutional dispensation.

    At the same time, the group that took its campaigns to Runyenjes in Embu questioned the interests of the US Government in the Kenyan constitutional affairs, saying President Barack Obama’s administration was pushing the local leadership to adopt the draft.
    The Standard | Online Edition :: ‘No’ Team: Why is US interested in our internal affairs?

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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    -- The Muslims in the north want to enslave and subjugate the black Africans who are non Muslim. They see the non Muslims as inferior racially and as pagans that must be enslaved as the Koran dictates --
    My experience of African Arabs (lighter skinned Arabs) in places like Northern Nigeria, Sudan etc was that they also saw black muslims as inferior muslims. I personally didn't see too much difference between the hostility and arrogance shown to black muslims or that shown to black christians and animists. That same hostility was also shown by Middle Eastern Arabs like the Lebanese in Africa. I found the Lebanese to be truly horrible arrogant people in Africa.

    As to why there's so little publicity, there are so many problems in Northern African countries, very few have much knowledge of Sudan and the complex internal affairs and so few "outsiders" are allowed in. Finally, on "ferrugems" point about the UN - Bashir has China watching his back. It's always useful having a powerful permanent Security Council member heavily involved in protecting all your misdeeds.

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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Well, there is one country in Africa where we are sticking our noses in....



    The Standard | Online Edition :: ‘No’ Team: Why is US interested in our internal affairs?

    Now why is Barry wasting time on this?
    Now why is Barry wasting time on this?
    LOL, hmm I wonder why but I betcha we can find a clue, I forget who's avitar it is but perhaps this can lead us into the right direction.
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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrugem View Post
    So as Israel and Palestine.. and still the wordd shoves its nose into it.

    and Lord:
    YouTube - Simon Deng -Arab enslavement and slaughter of black christian africans in Sudan
    Quote Originally Posted by ferrugem View Post
    which are pretty much useless... the UNAMID is a joke.
    The thing is, if it's useless why the UN is not sending there forces? as they are so excited to send the ME.

    Lord - If you actially heard, they kidnapping Christian shildren and force them to convert into Islam, its a problem by itself, as it is connected to the war torn area.
    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, the conflict is between Muslims who are of more Arab decent and black Africans who are Christians and animists (traditional religions for the region). The Muslims in the north want to enslave and subjugate the bla

    ck Africans who are non Muslim. They see the non Muslims as inferior racially and as pagans that must be enslaved as the Koran dictates. The conflict centers around race and religion, with the Arab Muslims wanting to take over a country and enslave the black non Muslims. Christianity is also one of the fastest growing religions in south Sudan as well.
    Again both of you are incorrect

    Sudan has two main area's of coflict that involve the central government
    Southern Sudan which is predominately christian and is where he slavery has been taking place. For those who can recall the Ukranian ship that was hijacked by Somalia pirates that had T 72 MBT tanks as part of its cargo was suspected of transporting them to be used in the southern Sudan army. It is also the region in Sudan which recently had a vote to determine whether or not it was to become independant (or something similar). Southern Sudan and northern Sudan have been in conflict for decades.


    Darfur
    The people in Darfur are predominantly Black Africans of Muslim belief. While the Janjawid militia is made up of Arabized Black African (Black Arabs); the majority of Arab groups in Darfur remain uninvolved in the conflict. Darfurians—Arab and non-Arab alike—profoundly distrust a government in Khartoum that has brought them nothing but trouble
    Sudan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    As I stated Darfur is primarly muslim on muslim, meaning it is not the result of a religous conflict but an ethnic one, just like the majority of conflicts that do involve different religions, they generally involve different ethnicties as well.


    Lastly the worst conflict in the world today is not Darfur but the DRC with over 6 million killed

    Suprisingly it is by far a christian nation

    Christianity is the majority religion in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, followed by about 95.1% of the population. Denominations include Protestant (including Kimbanguism) 46.5%, Roman Catholic 41.5%, Orthodox 0.1%, other Christian 6.9%, Indigenous 2.8%, Muslim 0.9%, Non-religious 0.7%, Hindu 0.1%, and other 0.5%[59].
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democra...c_of_the_Congo
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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrugem View Post
    which are pretty much useless... the UNAMID is a joke.
    The thing is, if it's useless why the UN is not sending there forces? as they are so excited to send the ME.

    Lord - If you actially heard, they kidnapping Christian shildren and force them to convert into Islam, its a problem by itself, as it is connected to the war torn area.
    Again where do you propose they get these forces from?

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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Does the word "peace activists" answer your question Red?

    Just send some of thous guys there, they are actually ninjas..but shhh no one knows
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    Re: Darfur death toll rises to two-year high in Sudan

    Gezz people should read up on stuff before posting.. the amount of ignorance in this thread on Darfur is mind boggling.
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