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    Dems launch $125m health campaign

    Dems launch $125M health campaign - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and Victoria Kennedy — widow of Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) — are expected to be named co-chairmen of a $125 million campaign that White House allies are rolling out to defend health care reform amid growing signs Democrats are failing to get political traction on the issue.

    The extraordinary campaign, which could provide an unprecedented amount of cover for a White House in a policy debate, reflects urgency among Democrats to explain, defend and depoliticize health care reform now that people are beginning to feel the new law’s effects. The Health Information Center is being started by Andrew Grossman, a veteran Democratic operative who founded Wal-Mart Watch, a labor-backed group to challenge the world’s largest retailer on employee relations and other fronts. Grossman told POLITICO that the lessons of Wal-Mart Watch will be helpful on health reform. “When you treat people with respect and try to understand how they interact with businesses and politics, you can move them,” he explained.

    The estimated budget is $25 million a year for five years. And Grossman has already begun raising money from unions, foundations and corporations.
    For me, the most notable part of this is that almost every (if not every) part of this could have been implemented prior to the SC's decision in Citizens United. This just drives home the absurdity of the argument that that decision would taint our pure-as-driven-snow electoral system. Money has always flooded our political system, and this election cycle will be no better or worse than it would have been if that decision had gone the other way.

    Even on the margins, where Citizens United expanded the types of language that advocacy groups could use, the results are somewhat amusing:

    After the Supreme Court handed down its now-infamous Citizens United decision in January, many legal and political observers warned the ruling would unleash a torrent of corporate cash into American elections. President Barack Obama decried the decision as "a major victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and the other powerful interests that marshal their power every day in Washington to drown out the voices of everyday Americans." Just as predicted, campaign ads that would previously have been illegal are now airing in key midterm election races. But the players funding those ads aren’t the ones you might expect. It turns out that some of the first groups to exploit Citizens United aren't corporations, but labor unions.
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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    If it was not so pitifully a waste of money, one might be inclined to laugh at it.

    The Bill for good or otherwise has already been passed it has been signed into Law so why would anyone want to educate the Public with regards to a fait accompli?

    For those people on Medicare who have been refused Medical care because the Dr. refuses to take a 21% pay cut, no amount of explanation will replace that Dr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    If it was not so pitifully a waste of money, one might be inclined to laugh at it.

    The Bill for good or otherwise has already been passed it has been signed into Law so why would anyone want to educate the Public with regards to a fait accompli?

    For those people on Medicare who have been refused Medical care because the Dr. refuses to take a 21% pay cut, no amount of explanation will replace that Dr.
    It's called propaganda.... they are afraid people will look at the facts of the new legislation and not like what they see, so now they will spend 25 million dollars a year to try to turn the facts around to reflect what they want us to see..... ain't gunna work, most of us can read.
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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    It's called propaganda.... they are afraid people will look at the facts of the new legislation and not like what they see, so now they will spend 25 million dollars a year to try to turn the facts around to reflect what they want us to see..... ain't gunna work, most of us can read.
    Actually polls show most Americans are grossly undereducated when it comes to the actual contents of the bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Actually polls show most Americans are grossly undereducated when it comes to the actual contents of the bill.
    Well when you look to Sarah Palin for your education on the bill... can anyone say Death Panels?

    (Not implying that Crunch looked to Palin)

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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well when you look to Sarah Palin for your education on the bill... can anyone say Death Panels?

    (Not implying that Crunch looked to Palin)
    Sarah Palin was to a certain extent correct.
    If a Doctors income is reduced by 21% that Doctor may well refuse to accept any Medicare patients, in that instance the likelyhood of a patient previously looked after by that Doctor, succumbing to some ailment is considerably enhanced.

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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Dems launch $125M health campaign - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com



    For me, the most notable part of this is that almost every (if not every) part of this could have been implemented prior to the SC's decision in Citizens United. This just drives home the absurdity of the argument that that decision would taint our pure-as-driven-snow electoral system. Money has always flooded our political system, and this election cycle will be no better or worse than it would have been if that decision had gone the other way.

    Even on the margins, where Citizens United expanded the types of language that advocacy groups could use, the results are somewhat amusing:
    I read this morning that labor unions paid out $10 million of their member's money in the failed effort to defeat Blanche Lincoln. I would be furious if I were a member of one of those unions.

    $10 million would pay for a lot of healthcare.

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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Actually polls show most Americans are grossly undereducated when it comes to the actual contents of the bill.
    They will become educated very quickly when they find out how much this "free" healthcare is going to cost them.

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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    After reading some of the bill - I find I still overall, think this bill is bad for us. That the savings was BS - well, those of us old enough and lacking the naivety knew and know what happens when the Federal Government runs things as they have a horrid track record. It was and continues to be a bad idea and no amount of polish will make that Health Care bill turd shine.
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    Re: Dems launch $125m health campaign

    Great... $125 million to defend something that's already passed. More wasted money.

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