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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Obama has done a great job of keeping campaign promises; According to PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises he has kept around 9 campaign promises to every 1 that he's broken, that's pretty damn good.

    SURELY you are not presenting "politifact" as an objective news source??!!?

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, Obama did something, so obviously you'd be upset
    I guess you missed the part where I said I was surprised he did this.

    So you aren't upset at Obama for supporting legalizing Whaling?

    BTW, having disclosed on your lean is about as convincing as Charlie Sheen making a vow of chastity.
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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    SURELY you are not presenting "politifact" as an objective news source??!!?

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    The American Spectator is harldly an objective news source. If you want to discredit a Pulizter Prize winning website's reputation, you should do better then that.
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    In all seriousness who else besides Japan does major whaling? I dont give a damm either way, the nation has much more pressing issues.
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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    SURELY you are not presenting "politifact" as an objective news source??!!?

    The American Spectator : PolitiFact's Fixers
    You're right, and The American Spectator is COMPLETELY fair and objective; I mean, it's not like Fox's managing editor is a major contributor to the American Spectator. Do you really think the American Spectator isn't Conservative?

    Lets take a look at Politifact's resume:
    -6 time Pulitzer Prize winner
    -13 time Pulitzer Prize finalist

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    in all seriousness who else besides japan does major whaling? I dont give a damm either way, the nation has much more pressing issues.
    japan / norway / iceland.

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Is this some kind of sick joke? Who the hell in America eats wale anyway? Like 0.2% of the population? Really worth legalizing (two sides of the argument but make this legal and bored people kill Wale for the sake of it and you'd be amazed, they do.
    Your point is what? I don't see what the big deal is with whales. And if nobody here eats them anyway, then why bother banning it? As for killing them just for fun, I doubt that anyone goes through that trouble.

    Or independent scientific organization kill them for "research". Who the hell cares? Try making something constructive like defeating cancer).
    I don't see what's wrong with killing whales for scientific research.

    And my main point is that "international laws" are bogus. Period.

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Is this some kind of sick joke? Who the hell in America eats wale anyway? Like 0.2% of the population? Really worth legalizing (two sides of the argument but make this legal and bored people kill Wale for the sake of it and you'd be amazed, they do. Or independent scientific organization kill them for "research". Who the hell cares? Try making something constructive like defeating cancer).
    I have no idea who eat wale, in fact I do not know what wale or a wale actually is, perhaps Metal gear would be kind enough to explain what is a wale ?

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    As long as the whaling is done in a manner which does not threaten the continued existence of the species I don't actually have a problem with this. Why do whales get special treatment anyways? Because they're smarter than most animals? Its not like cows or chickens want to be slaughtered either. Heck, even plants if they could talk would not want to be killed and eaten. Are we supposed to believe that less intelligence means that its more morally acceptable to kill and eat something? Let's test that then. Let's say that cannibalism of the mentally retarded should be allowed because they aren't as smart as the rest of us. Would anyone in their right mind find that even remotely acceptable? I should really hope not.

    So long as the species aren't threatened let people use and exploit whales for commercial purposes. If no one outside Japan buys it fine, just don't pretend that Westerners wholesale slaughter of numerous animals is better than Japan killing a few whales.

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    Re: Obama Under Fire for Backing Deal to Lift Global Ban on Commercial Whaling

    Quote Originally Posted by Civil1z@tion View Post
    As long as the whaling is done in a manner which does not threaten the continued existence of the species I don't actually have a problem with this. Why do whales get special treatment anyways? Because they're smarter than most animals? Its not like cows or chickens want to be slaughtered either. Heck, even plants if they could talk would not want to be killed and eaten. Are we supposed to believe that less intelligence means that its more morally acceptable to kill and eat something? Let's test that then. Let's say that cannibalism of the mentally retarded should be allowed because they aren't as smart as the rest of us. Would anyone in their right mind find that even remotely acceptable? I should really hope not.

    So long as the species aren't threatened let people use and exploit whales for commercial purposes. If no one outside Japan buys it fine, just don't pretend that Westerners wholesale slaughter of numerous animals is better than Japan killing a few whales.
    I agree with this, as long as the species is not endangered I have no problem with whaling. Why are they more special than any other animal we eat?

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