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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So let me get this straight: If she had been 18, it would have been perfectly fine, because she'd suddenly "have the experience and maturity to make good decisions" that everyone acquires on their 18th birthday. But since she was 17, she's a child who is incapable of thinking about the consequences...and therefore electroshock to the guy's testicles is the best solution?

    (And let's not even go into the fact that the picture was of the 23-year-old guy, not the innocent "child.")
    Actually, I would STILL have a problem with it, but there would be no legal recourse in that case.
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Sure you do. How can you teach them to be adults, unless you treat them as adults?
    That doesn't mean, developmentally they can HANDLE being adults.
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You are confusing issues. Laws are arbitrary; personalities are not. You do not suddenly become capable of better judgement on your 18th birthday; it's a slower process, and different for everyone. Ignoring legality, we can't just assume that someone is too immature to make sexual decisions knowing only that they are 17.
    Nor can we assume that someone is mature enough to make sexual decisions when they turn 18. I agree that it is an indiviual process. That's why when teens I work with say, "well, when I'm 18, my parents won't be telling me what to do", I laugh at them and tell them that 18 is pretty irrelevant. One's maturity and developmental level is what's relevant.
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Wow. You don't see an issue with teenagers sending a receiving naked picutures of themselves?
    Should everything people have an issue with be illegal? The father should have worked on being a better parent, then he would not be facing multiple felonies.
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That's what's so funny about this... when kids get drunk or high or do something dangerous, well, kids will be kids. When they show each other their body parts, it's an outrage that must be stopped.
    Actually, as far as I'm concerned, both issues are equally problematic. In my experience, mot would agree with this. Might be a good idea for you to not make assumptions about that.

    Just another faux moral panic created by old people who can't stand these crazy kids and their darned cell phones and technology. If they did it as a kid it's ok, otherwise its a danger to society. It happens all the time, always has and probably always will.
    Just another issue that teens who have trouble seeing the consequences of their behaviors dismiss. Fairly typical of the age.
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I think the people of California set the age of consent so high because they realize how unprepared their children are until the older ages. I would've expected to see an age of consent of 18 exist in ultra conservative states as that's the stereotype, but then it follows that a conservative family would raise more responsible children, better able to handle the world earlier on. Children from Liberal homes tend to seek sex about 2 years earlier than children from Conservative homes. Here in SD the age of consent for sex is 14, and marriage with parental consent at 16. Our children have a longer leash because they're more responsible. CA knows that their failed public education system and Progressive policies retard their children development, so let them decide what their age of consent is for themselves. If you don't like it, don't live there.
    See, I think that in conservative homes, the level of sheltering prevents development and maturity, making it so they would be unprepared to deal with situations, whereas in liberal homes, allowing for experimentation and less strictmess teaches more self-reliance. Perhaps the lower level of age of consent is more about denial.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That doesn't mean, developmentally they can HANDLE being adults.
    Is there a developmental shortcoming that would prevent them from handle being adults at say age 16? I am sure we can find stories of the older sister of a family who has lost their mother stepping up to the plate and being an adult. It is a matter of responsibility assumed, I would say.

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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    But the failure is in seeing it as something that is never acceptable. If they send it to someone they hardly know, or they don't realize the potential consequences, then sure. If it's a mature 16 or 17 year old sending to someone they really know well and trust, there's really nothing I see wrong. Like teen sex, it's not inherently bad, but can be depending on the situation.
    Of course it depends on the situation, but someone you trust, doesn't mean someone you will always trust. People break up, and with the impulsivity and over-emotionality of teens, pictures such as these can be used after the break up. It's dangerous no matter what, even though there are degrees.

    And frankly, even where it is a bad thing, I'd rather my child sext than drink or drive without a license or do drugs or actually have sex or any number of things that it's often considered normal young adult behavior.
    No one is arguing comparisons. The issue is whether this is a problem onto itself.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    I love statistics. They're so fun.

    You know, just like he tried to somehow suggest that conservatives are a bunch of teen pregnancy fiends let me show using similar dumb logic and his own statistics how its apparent liberals love to have abortions:

    1. New York
    2. New Jersey
    3. Nevada
    4. Delaware
    5. Connecticut
    6. California
    7. Hawaii
    8. Maryland
    9. Florida
    10. Rhode Island

    I see a lot of Liberal states on there killing a bunch of potential babies.

    Oh, and more to the point that Jerry was making...

    While California may not be in the top 10, it is #1 in the total amount of teen pregnancies. Not being in the top 10 doesn't matter to much when you're still topping the total number.

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    Re: Dad Accused of Using Stun Gun on Daughter's Friend Over Naked Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Is there a developmental shortcoming that would prevent them from handle being adults at say age 16? I am sure we can find stories of the older sister of a family who has lost their mother stepping up to the plate and being an adult. It is a matter of responsibility assumed, I would say.
    Developmentally, our brains do not fully develop until we are in our early 20's. prior to that the parts of the brain that control impulsivity/decision-making, and emotions are still developing. This is why teens tend to do more risk taking behavior, and react more emotionally.impulsively, rather than rationally to things. Are there anecdotal stories that show that young people can handle certain situations? Sure. But overall, with research, including MRI brain scans, teens are less capable of managing adult-like scenarios than those whose brains have fully developed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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