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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL the fake outrage.. you all do know Israel does pretty much the same right and have done so for decades?

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israeli law limits Arab citizenship
    lol a law which would disallow citizenship rights based on marriage =/= revocation of citizenship for getting married. Israel has the right to grant citizenship to whoever they want.

    You're comparing random acts of violence to state sponsored acts of oppression?
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hypocrite alert!

    ‚€˜Marriage to an Arab is national treason‚€™ - Israel News, Ynetnews



    There are also many campaigns to discourage Jew and Arab inter dating and marriage.

    As for the law.. it has not been repealed.

    Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    On top of that there are cases where Palestinians marrying outside the occupied areas pretty much means that if they leave they will never be allowed back and their husband/wife will never be allowed in either. But I am guessing you are fine with such open discrimination because it is happening to dirty areeebs right?

    And before you start, I aint defending the action of the Egyptian court in any way or form, but I also refuse to only blame the Egyptians when the Israelis are and have been doing this crap for far longer.
    A law which would disallow citizenship rights based on marriage =/= revocation of citizenship for getting married. Israel has the right to grant citizenship to whoever they want.

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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    lol a law which would disallow citizenship rights based on marriage =/= revocation of citizenship for getting married. Israel has the right to grant citizenship to whoever they want.



    You're comparing random acts of violence to state sponsored acts of oppression?
    Of course he is. He has nothing else. Heaven forbid he actually condemn the Egyptian law.
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Figure I put it out there that Egypt is another country that receives tax payer aid. I think its long over due to stop it.
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Of course he is. He has nothing else. Heaven forbid he actually condemn the Egyptian law.
    Its not an Egyptian law.. it is an Egyptian court that made a ruling. And I did condemn it. Now will you condemn what Israel does to its own citizens when it comes to marriage?
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    A law which would disallow citizenship rights based on marriage =/= revocation of citizenship for getting married. Israel has the right to grant citizenship to whoever they want.
    It is not a law. It is a ruling by a court. There is quite a bit of doubt out there that the Egyptian government will follow the ruling, but I guess in your hatred of arabs and anything associated to them, you forgot to fact check your own remarks.
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    The difference is between granting automatic citizenship (Israel) and stripping existing citizenship (Egypt). They're not comparable. In fact, there's talk in Arizona of doing something very similar re: denying automatic citizenship.

    Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (Yahoo News)
    There is no difference. The law denying automatic citizenship targets a specific group of people (arabs and Palestinians), and not everyone. There is no difference. Defending Israel on this point is stupid and a huge double standard. In Egypt it is a court that made this ruling and so far there is huge doubt that the Egyptian government will even follow the ruling, where as in Israel it is the government and Knesset that made the law and even renewed it many times plus the Supreme Court actually okayed the law.. narrowly.

    And lets not forget the huge difference in situations. There is a much larger chance of an Israeli Jew and Israeli Arab for falling in love than an Egyptian and Israeli. Israeli Jews and Arabs plus the Palestinians live in the same place and interact every day. So the Egyptian ruling if carried out (and there is huge doubt it will be), will hit a very small minority, where as the Israeli law hits thousands every year.
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
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    I think the world is slowly going crazy!
    I wasn't aware of either cases - this just continues to show up the horrible situation that can sometimes only be described as the Middle East. No side comes out with any honour from either set of stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That was passed during the second intifada, it was done to prevent terrorists from gaining an Israeli citizenship, and while I, as do many other Israelis and Israeli politicians, think that it should be removed by now since we're not in an intifada currently I can absolutely see the security reasons behind it.

    The Egyptian case however is a clear and obvious act of hostility, against a nationality that they're apparently in peace with.
    How many Israelis would marry an Arab terrorist? Or was this aimed at the Israeli Arabs as if they were / are some kind of 5th column?
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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is not a law. It is a ruling by a court. There is quite a bit of doubt out there that the Egyptian government will follow the ruling, but I guess in your hatred of arabs and anything associated to them, you forgot to fact check your own remarks.
    Why would they not support it? This is the same country which still outlaws apostasy and homosexuality. And no I don't hate Arabs I hate Islam especially Islamic law which is oppresive by its very nature.

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    Re: Cairo court rules on Egyptians married to Israeli women

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There is no difference. The law denying automatic citizenship targets a specific group of people (arabs and Palestinians), and not everyone.
    No one is granted automatic citizenship to Israel except Jews.

    There is no difference.
    They are completely different, one discriminates against ones own citizens the other bars immigration and citizenship to foreigners.

    Defending Israel on this point is stupid and a huge double standard. In Egypt it is a court that made this ruling and so far there is huge doubt that the Egyptian government will even follow the ruling, where as in Israel it is the government and Knesset that made the law and even renewed it many times plus the Supreme Court actually okayed the law.. narrowly.
    So Israel has no right to determine who can and can not become citizens of Israel? Interesting.

    And lets not forget the huge difference in situations. There is a much larger chance of an Israeli Jew and Israeli Arab for falling in love than an Egyptian and Israeli. Israeli Jews and Arabs plus the Palestinians live in the same place and interact every day. So the Egyptian ruling if carried out (and there is huge doubt it will be), will hit a very small minority, where as the Israeli law hits thousands every year.
    It hits thousands of foreigners, all Israeli citizens have full and equal rights under Israeli law. The same can not be said of Egypt.

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