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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Mega & Adpst--Did either of you ever respond to the article itself and share your opinions of it?

    Do you mind? We're trying to have a fast paced, off-topic conversation here. Thank you!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Basically, what you're saying, is that all blacks and hispanics are the same and there are no sub-cultures in either community.
    I think that race is mostly cosmetic, at least according to what I have read about the science of it, so yes, all people are essentially the same when it comes to their genetics.

    Culturally, people can be very different.

    I still don't know why you keep putting those two very different things together.
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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you mind? We're trying to have a fast paced, off-topic conversation here. Thank you!
    Don't be rude. Missypea is making a very important point. We did hijack this thread.

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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think that race is mostly cosmetic, at least according to what I have read about the science of it, so yes, all people are essentially the same when it comes to their genetics.

    Culturally, people can be very different.
    That's ****in' funny, dude!!
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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's ****in' funny, dude!!
    You are out of arguments I see.

    Lets try another angle.

    Why do you want to say that race and culture are the same thing?

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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Stop cultivating the Liberal double standard and see the word for the racial slur that it is.
    Boy that freakin' white-hatin' Jeff Foxworthy! He's keepin' the white man down by talking about his own redneck culture.

    I don't get where you equate it to the n-word. It's primarily used by white people about white people. Honkey or Cracker is the equivalent term (i.e. used by non-whites against whites).

    Redneck is used more frequently by people CLAIMING to be one than I see it as an insult. It can be used as an insult, yes. It's a classist term, though. Not racist.

    Please stop trying to play the "white victim" and simply point out that it's bad manners to insult others. But until you can get Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy to stop using the term, you're going to have a hard time convincing ANYONE that it's a racist term. Mainly - because it isn't.

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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Boy that freakin' white-hatin' Jeff Foxworthy! He's keepin' the white man down by talking about his own redneck culture.

    I don't get where you equate it to the n-word. It's primarily used by white people about white people. Honkey or Cracker is the equivalent term (i.e. used by non-whites against whites).

    Redneck is used more frequently by people CLAIMING to be one than I see it as an insult. It can be used as an insult, yes. It's a classist term, though. Not racist.

    Please stop trying to play the "white victim" and simply point out that it's bad manners to insult others. But until you can get Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy to stop using the term, you're going to have a hard time convincing ANYONE that it's a racist term. Mainly - because it isn't.
    Just like that racist Chris Rock, with all his nigger jokes. Right?

    "A black ain't never stole from me...but a nigger has!" --Chris Rock

    I guess since Chris Rock can use it, it's ok for anyone to use it. Yes?

    You have logic all over your face, because it just blew up.
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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Just like that racist Chris Rock, with all his nigger jokes. Right?

    "A black ain't never stole from me...but a nigger has!" --Chris Rock

    I guess since Chris Rock can use it, it's ok for anyone to use it. Yes?
    You're still equating a classist term with a racist term. I don't think black rappers or comedians should use the n-word, either. But "redneck" is not the "n-word". A better equation from the black community is the (largely dated) term "high yellow" - which was an insult used by dark-skinned blacks against light-skinned blacks. Even then, that's truly a racial remark as opposed to classist remark.

    Just as Rock reclaims the n-word, though. Foxworthy using redneck is a reclamation of that term. Most linguists believe that it was long used as a point of pride; but became an insult at least by the 1970s (probably earlier).

    You can and should read The Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad. It outlines who arguments like we are actually having right now are common distractions created for us by the wealthy. As long as they keep the working and middle classes fighting amongst themselves, they keep getting richer.

    These things are merely distractions from real issues. Same with gays, abortion, etc. Both parties do it - but Republicans have gotten really good at it. They've gotten people to vote against their own self-interest because they've become delusional enough to believe that they'll one day join the wealthiest classes. And the Televangelists (who take people's money to line their pockets and build gigantic homes) have left Christ's message of "love the poor" to "abhor the poor". Prosperity theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You're still equating a classist term with a racist term. I don't think black rappers or comedians should use the n-word, either. But "redneck" is not the "n-word". A better equation from the black community is the (largely dated) term "high yellow" - which was an insult used by dark-skinned blacks against light-skinned blacks. Even then, that's truly a racial remark as opposed to classist remark.

    Just as Rock reclaims the n-word, though. Foxworthy using redneck is a reclamation of that term. Most linguists believe that it was long used as a point of pride; but became an insult at least by the 1970s (probably earlier).

    You can and should read The Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad. It outlines who arguments like we are actually having right now are common distractions created for us by the wealthy. As long as they keep the working and middle classes fighting amongst themselves, they keep getting richer.

    These things are merely distractions from real issues. Same with gays, abortion, etc. Both parties do it - but Republicans have gotten really good at it. They've gotten people to vote against their own self-interest because they've become delusional enough to believe that they'll one day join the wealthiest classes. And the Televangelists (who take people's money to line their pockets and build gigantic homes) have left Christ's message of "love the poor" to "abhor the poor". Prosperity theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Oh, so the new excuse is, "classist"? You guys are really reaching.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Altered mural fuels racial debate in Prescott

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, so the new excuse is, "classist"? You guys are really reaching.
    Except its not an excuse. Its a comment on culture or as filmfestguy refers to social or economic class (as in the tendancy for a redneck to be poor or lower middle class). I personally don't think classist is the best descriptive term, but I can see that it is pretty good.
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