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Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

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MetalGear said:
Well its good to have you boys there. Wish i could have the fortune of being stationed there myself. Best place to be in that region imo
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I was partial to UAE myself...it is actually a pretty culturally diverse country. You are just as likely (if not MORE) to sit with Iranians and Iraqis around the huka and talk over tea as you are an Emiratee. But I loved Turkey...I even enjoyed Saudi all three trips to Saudi. Afghanistan...not so much. Kuwait was OK. Qatar...Oman...both were OK...but that was before the buildup...
 
Apocalypse said:
Those are Israeli citizens not politicians.
And I find it highly amusing how you're still waiting for Turkish politicians to do something stupid. :lol:
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Hey, we weren't the ones who assaulted your ambassador with a tirade of...rudeness. :)
 
MetalGear said:
Hey, we weren't the ones who assaulted your ambassador with a tirade of...rudeness. :)
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Lol, you got a point there. That was pretty stupid.
On the other hand....whats so amusing about waiting for a stupid Turkish political reaction? Have you seen the idiots who rule our country?

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By the way i made that picture, so credits to me.
 
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MetalGear said:
Doesn't it? The oppression of a paticular ideological group doesn't cause the radicalism of that sect, in many instances?
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No the ideology of revolutionary communism created the radicalism within the PKK.

If they are educated or not is irrelevant to me. Im not saying it justified terrorism otherwise id probably not waste my time in the army.
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Those poor well educated middle class terrorists, they're so oppressed.

Read up on DTP.
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OMFG the DTP was founded in 2005. I think you're the one who ought to read up on the DTP. The PKK is and always was a terrorist organization.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Kurds show coded support for PKK
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Unnamed sources citing gut feelings =/= evidence.


Really? Please tell me. What steps have the Iraqi government in Kirkuk taken to stop PKK activities?
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Iraqi Kurdistan president vows support for Turkey against PKK
 
Agent Ferris said:
No the ideology of revolutionary communism created the radicalism within the PKK.
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The struggle for an independant homeland away from the then Turkish oppression made that all possible. Communism is merely an ideology that guides this struggle. You still have nothing.

Those poor well educated middle class terrorists, they're so oppressed.
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Because they are educated, they can't be oppressed? Do you have any idea what restrictions where placed on the Kurdish community at the time?

OMFG the DTP was founded in 2005. I think you're the one who ought to read up on the DTP. The PKK is and always was a terrorist organization.
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Oh please, same **** different arsehole. Ahmed Turk's political party, he merely co-founded a branch of his old political party and changed the name and uses it as a PKK front.

Unnamed sources citing gut feelings =/= evidence.
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It has it all there.


Iraqi Kurdistan president vows support for Turkey against PKK
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Yes, and that was a popular decision in Kirkuk. *sarcasm*
 
kaya'08 said:
Lol, you got a point there. That was pretty stupid.
On the other hand....whats so amusing about waiting for a stupid Turkish political reaction? Have you seen the idiots who rule our country?

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By the way i made that picture, so credits to me.
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You should know he cant be trusted...dude has an GINOURMOUS head...;)
 
VanceMack said:
You should know he cant be trusted...dude has an GINOURMOUS head...;)
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You are not allowed to comment on what you actuaslly see, V.M., only what Islamists tell you to believe. That is a perfectly proportioned head, just like he is a humanitarian and peace activist, the kind citizens on the boats who were just administering to the personal needs of those Joo interloopers were executed at close range when all they were doing is offering flowers to the Joos, and the world would all be just one, big happy place if it weren't for those meddlesome Zionists.

But we don't hate Joos. We love the Joos, really, it's just that we never believe them, support those who want to kill them, don't think they should have even a scrap of self determination, call them names, indulge in blood libels and vilify them at every turn. It's tough love, but thank goodness for right, proper people like us who show them so much.
 
kaya'08 said:
I dont know i've never seen it personally. When the military hacks it off and puts it on public display i'll let you know. :)
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Consider this a loan, just in case.
 
MetalGear said:
The struggle for an independant homeland away from the then Turkish oppression made that all possible. Communism is merely an ideology that guides this struggle. You still have nothing.
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Because they are educated, they can't be oppressed? Do you have any idea what restrictions where placed on the Kurdish community at the time?
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Being middle class and educated at university hardly speaks to oppression, oppression would be 2nd class citizens banned from secondary education like blacks in South Africa.

Oh please, same **** different arsehole. Ahmed Turk's political party, he merely co-founded a branch of his old political party and changed the name and uses it as a PKK front.
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The DTP is not a terrorist organization, the PKK was never a non-terrorist entity or parliamentary party as you asserted.

It has it all there.
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I read the link it cites an unnamed source citing his/her gut.


Yes, and that was a popular decision in Kirkuk. *sarcasm*
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Do you have a survey showing widespread Kurdish support for the PKK?
 
I just found out that Youtube is being blocked in Turkey.
Can you confirm that, Kaya?
 
Apocalypse said:
I'm now hearing that Google is partially banned there as well:


That article is from two days ago.
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What the hell?

t is alleged that due to several countries around the world banning popular Internet sites such as Google owned YouTube, Google have changed the IP addresses of YouTube to ones used by Google to try and tackle the problem.

Over this procedure by Google, the Telecommunication and communication Ministry in Turkey has blocked certain IP address belonging to Google in an attempt to stop accessibility to YouTube.

So in other words while trying to stop accessibility to YouTube, Google is having a knock on effect.

This latest Internet censorship has been met with outrage in Turkey.
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Youtube isn't blocked here???

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Maybe a video insulting Ataturk is, but not the entire website. Hell thats a good sign. At least SOMEBODY remembers Kemalism!
 
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Apocalypse said:
If you're saying you're posting from Turkey and that it is not restricted there I believe you.
Although it could be that it is only blocked on specific internet firms.

Here's another article, from yesterday, from softpedia:
Attempting to Ban YouTube, Turkey Restricts Several Google Services - Turkey bans Google by mistake, YouTube is the real threat - Softpedia
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I posted a screen shot of my IP trace just to make sure you see im here.
None of this makes sense to me. I dont know anybody around here experiencing the same problem. And im suprised i haven't heard about this because i keep one ear to the ground regarding Turkish news.

If this law was actually passed, all ISP's would be bound to uphold it.
 
Apocalypse said:
If you're saying you're posting from Turkey and that it is not restricted there I believe you.
Although it could be that it is only blocked on specific internet firms.

Here's another article, from yesterday, from softpedia:
Attempting to Ban YouTube, Turkey Restricts Several Google Services - Turkey bans Google by mistake, YouTube is the real threat - Softpedia

Edit: By the way Kaya, edit your post, it reveals personal information.
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If this is true, by any means, another example of an Erdogan screw up which will - by an luck - cost him his leadership.

It is alleged that due to several countries around the world banning popular Internet sites such as Google owned YouTube, Google have changed the IP addresses of YouTube to ones used by Google to try and tackle the problem.

Over this procedure by Google, the Telecommunication and communication Ministry in Turkey has blocked certain IP address belonging to Google in an attempt to stop accessibility to YouTube.

So in other words while trying to stop accessibility to YouTube, Google is having a knock on effect.

This latest Internet censorship has been met with outrage in Turkey.
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Seriously though, im totally baffled. I'll look into it more and let you know.
 
MetalGear said:
The struggle for an independant homeland away from the then Turkish oppression made that all possible. Communism is merely an ideology that guides this struggle. You still have nothing.
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Communism gave the independence movement its terrorist stripe, because Communist doctrine justifies the use of terrorism and attacks on civilians who can be deemed enemies of the revolution.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Communism gave the independence movement its terrorist stripe, because Communist doctrine justifies the use of terrorism and attacks on civilians who can be deemed enemies of the revolution.
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Yet this revolution does not include turning Turkey into a communist state, but carving out a Kurdish state in Turkey from what they believe is rightfully there's. There is no "Turk" in this equation. It is a Kurdish struggle. That area of Turkey lacks the substantial funds the rest of Turkey enjoys, even though the gap of the distribution of wealth is closing. Its no wonder, by adding the "communist element", a command economy gives the PKK extra support.
 
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