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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    This would explain a lot...



    Link to Article - Herald Sun
    The Turkish PM is wrong in this case. I don't think there is much we can do about it, but it is an incredibly foolish statement.
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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Turkish PM is wrong in this case. I don't think there is much we can do about it, but it is an incredibly foolish statement.
    Doubt that it was a spontaneous "mis-speak". He knew what he was saying and it was likely calculated/directed to a particular audience....



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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

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    Doubt that it was a spontaneous "mis-speak". He knew what he was saying and it was likely calculated/directed to a particular audience....



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    Oh yes. Was not trying to suggest it was a mis-speak. It was intentional, and stupid.
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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Just got this week's edition of The Economist... I have lost almost all my respect for that magazine. Besides being anti-zionist (which is nothing new) it's viewpoint is bordering Hamas-sympathetic.

    I still got more years in my life, I'd rather not see it end in a world in which fallacy takes precedence over fact.
    What you are witnessing is called a paradigm shift. When a tipping point is reached, the general perception of a situation switches, almost overnight, from one position to another, with no perceptible gentle drifting but a wholesale change from one view to another. This is a concept well described in the work of Thomas Kuhn.

    The Economist is a centre-right, economically liberal, socially conservative magazine whose allegiances have little to do with religion, ethnicity or tradition and have everything to do with promoting the interests of global capital, because of (or despite) being part-owned by the Rothschild family. What they are reflecting is a watershed in the attitude of western capitalism towards the Israeli-American concensus on Middle Eastern affairs.

    The IDF action in International waters on Tuesday morning may have a significance greater than it merits by having triggered the shift that makes western liberal capital flee from associations that damage the perception of its values across the World. I don't say this with any certainty, but when a publication such as The Economist begins to eschew that Israeli-American axis, you can be sure that a significant stream of global capital is thinking similarly.
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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    This would explain a lot...



    Link to Article - Herald Sun
    This explains a lot.
    Now we have a NATO "ally" siding with terrorist enema's, or at a minimum unable to differentiate between a terrorist and non-terrorist organization.
    All intel to Turkey should be cut off immediately, or they should be fed false info to see what comes of it.

    I hope Europeans get a shot of sobriety and find other vacation destinations other than Turkey.
    The only way to make them wake up is to hit them in the pocket book.

    My bet is it will be barely reported.

    I wonder... would this have happened under Bush?
    I highly doubt it.

    But... given the opportunity with a weak president, they have to seize the moment... now!

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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hitler was legally appointed to chancelor, too. Should we have just left him alone? The only reason Hamas isn't doing what Hitler did, is because they can't.




    Hamas has declared war upon Israel. Israel has every right to defend herself, however she sees fit. If the Palestinians really wanted peace, there would be peace. But, the election of Hamas proves that the Palestinians aren't interested in peace, only the destruction of Israel.
    If Hamas ceased to exist today and all its active members were to be vaporized, the world would be better off



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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If Hamas ceased to exist today and all its active members were to be vaporized, the world would be better off
    No..... it would get blamed on Bush.
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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Hamas is a popularly elected political party. To say that it is simply a "terrorist organization" is simplifying to the situation to a ridiculous extent. Life isn't that simple, no matter how difficult it is for you to deal with it.
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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Hamas is a popularly elected political party. To say that it is simply a "terrorist organization" is simplifying to the situation to a ridiculous extent. Life isn't that simple, no matter how difficult it is for you to deal with it.
    It may not only be a terrorist organization, but it does have an accepted terrorist element, which does make it a terrorist organization to my mind.
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    Re: Hamas not a terrorist group, says Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Hamas is a popularly elected political party. To say that it is simply a "terrorist organization" is simplifying to the situation to a ridiculous extent. Life isn't that simple, no matter how difficult it is for you to deal with it.
    The Nazi Party was a popularly elected political party and it doesn't change what the Nazis were and still are. Hugo Chavez is a popularly elected president and it doesn't make him any less of an asshole. Being, "popularly elected", doesn't instantaniously lend credibility to anyone.
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