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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    If she was for peace she never would have stood in front of bulldozers trying to close off tunnels bringing in weapons.
    She stood in front a bulldozer that was trying to demolish the home of the local pharmicist, Samir Nasrallah. Get your facts straight.

    Oh wait, I just realized who I was replying to.

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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    I invented the Rachel Corrie sandwich. Its a piece of cheese on flatbread.
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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    She stood in front a bulldozer that was trying to demolish the home of the local pharmicist, Samir Nasrallah. Get your facts straight.

    Oh wait, I just realized who I was replying to.
    Still have no clue what you are talking about I see Degreez. Nice to see some things never change

    It would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic.

    The Israeli government revealed that 90 weapons-smuggling tunnels were constructed between the Egyptian border and Rafah. At least some of these tunnels were known to end underneath the homes in Rafah.


    First, there are the tunnel connections underneath the homes. ISM'ers who stayed with Gazan families might have seen the tunnels themselves, or they at least spotted people going back and forth from the basement of the home.

    During deliveries, people would have been hauling the goods out of the homes. Maybe Corrie herself did some heavy lifting.

    The weapons then had to be transported somehow. Vehicles appear to be the natural choice. They would have had to be driven to the tunnel entrances and the weapons would need to be loaded onto the trucks.

    Would you wonder about this kind of activity if you were personally on the scene?

    Wherever ISM members mingled and even lived among Gaza and West Bank Arabs, it is possible that many of these Arabs were terrorists or helped the terrorists by feeding and housing them. The ISM'ers could have been at gatherings where they were introduced to suspected terrorists, heard stories about violent activities or noticed otherwise suspicious activity.

    Actually, there is not only evidence, but proof of ISM aiding and abetting terrorists. When terrorists seized a church in Bethlehem, a few ISM'ers smuggled food to them.

    If you put it all together, a reasonable person must conclude that the ISM members knew they were aiding and abetting terrorists.

    The instant that it dawned on any of them that they might be helping terrorists was precisely the time for them to end their involvement. That's what a sincere and honorable person would have done.

    Perhaps some ISM'ers dismissed such validation on grounds that this was the Arabs' only mechanism to resist Israel's brutal occupation. Which would excuse, in their warped minds, the murder of hundreds of innocent human beings.


    We overlook the fact that Corrie’s death took place in the midst of the “intifada” terrorist onslaught against Israel and that she was working for a Palestinian-led organization as the first line of defense against Israel’s Operation Defensive Shield to stop terrorist suicide bombers. Just ten days before Corrie’s death, a Palestinian suicide bomber blew up a bus in Haifa, a few miles from the courthouse where the Corrie parents are suing Israel. Seventeen Israelis died in the attack, many of them teenagers.

    The Palestinian-led group — International Solidarity Movement (ISM) — enlisted dozens of “internationals,” including Corrie, to serve as support troops. ISM admits that it “recognizes the Palestinian right to resist Israeli violence and occupation via legitimate armed struggle.” ISM’s creed translated into action: In May 2002, ten ISM members rushed into the Church of the Nativity to serve as human shields for Palestinian terrorists holed up there and desecrating the holy site. In Jenin in March 2003, an ISM woman hid a wanted Islamic Jihad terrorist, Shadi Sukiya, from the Israeli army. In Gaza in April 2003, two terrorists “had tea” with ISM members before they embarked on their mission to blow up Mike’s Place, a bar in Tel Aviv, five days later.



    I know its hard for you to do any critical thinking but to try to actually research something before embarrassing yourself once again

    The Case Against Rachel Corrie - Op-Eds - Israel National News

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/rachel-...pjm-exclusive/
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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Still have no clue what you are talking about I see Degreez. Nice to see some things never change

    It would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic.

    The Israeli government revealed that 90 weapons-smuggling tunnels were constructed between the Egyptian border and Rafah. At least some of these tunnels were known to end underneath the homes in Rafah.


    First, there are the tunnel connections underneath the homes. ISM'ers who stayed with Gazan families might have seen the tunnels themselves, or they at least spotted people going back and forth from the basement of the home.

    During deliveries, people would have been hauling the goods out of the homes. Maybe Corrie herself did some heavy lifting.

    The weapons then had to be transported somehow. Vehicles appear to be the natural choice. They would have had to be driven to the tunnel entrances and the weapons would need to be loaded onto the trucks.

    Would you wonder about this kind of activity if you were personally on the scene?

    Wherever ISM members mingled and even lived among Gaza and West Bank Arabs, it is possible that many of these Arabs were terrorists or helped the terrorists by feeding and housing them. The ISM'ers could have been at gatherings where they were introduced to suspected terrorists, heard stories about violent activities or noticed otherwise suspicious activity.

    Actually, there is not only evidence, but proof of ISM aiding and abetting terrorists. When terrorists seized a church in Bethlehem, a few ISM'ers smuggled food to them.

    If you put it all together, a reasonable person must conclude that the ISM members knew they were aiding and abetting terrorists.

    The instant that it dawned on any of them that they might be helping terrorists was precisely the time for them to end their involvement. That's what a sincere and honorable person would have done.

    Perhaps some ISM'ers dismissed such validation on grounds that this was the Arabs' only mechanism to resist Israel's brutal occupation. Which would excuse, in their warped minds, the murder of hundreds of innocent human beings.


    We overlook the fact that Corrie’s death took place in the midst of the “intifada” terrorist onslaught against Israel and that she was working for a Palestinian-led organization as the first line of defense against Israel’s Operation Defensive Shield to stop terrorist suicide bombers. Just ten days before Corrie’s death, a Palestinian suicide bomber blew up a bus in Haifa, a few miles from the courthouse where the Corrie parents are suing Israel. Seventeen Israelis died in the attack, many of them teenagers.

    The Palestinian-led group — International Solidarity Movement (ISM) — enlisted dozens of “internationals,” including Corrie, to serve as support troops. ISM admits that it “recognizes the Palestinian right to resist Israeli violence and occupation via legitimate armed struggle.” ISM’s creed translated into action: In May 2002, ten ISM members rushed into the Church of the Nativity to serve as human shields for Palestinian terrorists holed up there and desecrating the holy site. In Jenin in March 2003, an ISM woman hid a wanted Islamic Jihad terrorist, Shadi Sukiya, from the Israeli army. In Gaza in April 2003, two terrorists “had tea” with ISM members before they embarked on their mission to blow up Mike’s Place, a bar in Tel Aviv, five days later.



    I know its hard for you to do any critical thinking but to try to actually research something before embarrassing yourself once again

    The Case Against Rachel Corrie - Op-Eds - Israel National News

    Pajamas Media
    I don't really take opinion editorials for Israel National News as factual, impartial journalism.

    CNN.com - Israeli bulldozer kills American protester - Mar. 25, 2003
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel calls Corrie death 'accident'
    The Death of Rachel Corrie | Mother Jones

    At two o'clock on the afternoon of Sunday, March 16, Rachel Corrie received a cell-phone call from a comrade in the International Solidarity Movement. "The Israelis are back," she told Corrie. "Get over here right away. I think they're heading for Dr. Samir's house." The news alarmed Corrie. Samir Nasrallah was a Palestinian pharmacist who lived with his wife and three children a few hundred yards from the battle-scarred Egyptian border in the Gaza Strip town of Rafah. Corrie and other pro-Palestinian activists based in Rafah had frequently spent the night in Nasrallah's house, acting as human shields against the Israeli tanks and bulldozers clearing a security zone around the border. Almost every other structure in the area had been knocked down in recent months; Nasrallah's abode now stood alone in a sea of sand and debris.

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    Certain that the pharmacist's house was about to be razed, Corrie caught a taxi to the Hai as-Salam neighborhood. The paved roads of downtown Rafah gave way to sandy tracks lined with scrabbly olive groves, mosques, modest houses, and dirt pitches where Corrie often played soccer -- badly but enthusiastically -- with local youths. At 2:30, a neighbor of Nasrallah's named Abu Ahmed caught sight of the activist hurrying past his house. Slight, hazel-eyed, with high cheekbones and dirty blond hair pulled back in a ponytail, she carried a megaphone in one hand and an orange fluorescent jacket in the other. "Come inside and have some tea," he urged her. But Corrie told him she didn't have time, and he watched as she disappeared around the corner of his house, heading toward the roar of machinery.
    At least post some credible evidence that the house they were demolishing (the Palestinian pharamicist's houst , Dr. Samir Nasrallah) had access to smuggling tunnels. There mere fact that a house is on top of a smuggling tunnel is not cause to demolish that home.

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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    I don't really take opinion editorials for Israel National News as factual, impartial journalism.

    CNN.com - Israeli bulldozer kills American protester - Mar. 25, 2003
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel calls Corrie death 'accident'
    The Death of Rachel Corrie | Mother Jones



    At least post some credible evidence that the house they were demolishing (the Palestinian pharamicist's houst , Dr. Samir Nasrallah) had access to smuggling tunnels. There mere fact that a house is on top of a smuggling tunnel is not cause to demolish that home.
    Read the articles. The Israeli government revealed that 90 weapons-smuggling tunnels were constructed between the Egyptian border and Rafah. At least some of these tunnels were known to end underneath the homes in Rafah.

    I know you would rather wait until more Israelis die before taking action but the Israelis don't agree. I have no sympathy for this terrorist supporter and neither should you.
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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Read the articles. The Israeli government revealed that 90 weapons-smuggling tunnels were constructed between the Egyptian border and Rafah. At least some of these tunnels were known to end underneath the homes in Rafah.

    I know you would rather wait until more Israelis die before taking action but the Israelis don't agree. I have no sympathy for this terrorist supporter and neither should you.
    The mere fact that a tunnel may or may not have been under the home of Dr. Samir Nasrallah is not cause for an Occupying Power to demolish the home of a person who committed no crime. Calling this person a terrorist supporter only shows your own vile demonization of a person who defended an injust action being carried out without due process.

    I have no sympathy for violaters of international law and neither should you.

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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No, she was an anti-american big mouth punk who thought standing in the blind spot of a bulldozer taking down the home of a known terrorist was the smart play.







    Eff her, and her flat rotting corpse.



    Isn't she peaceful?

    Beatific, even.
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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Folks, this thread is not about the ex-activist Rachel Corrie but about the ship Rachel Corrie.
    Both Ireland and Israel have reached an agreement yesterday to have Irish, UN and Israeli officials inspecting the cargo of the ship at the Ashdod's port, and then transfer it through to the Gaza Strip.
    That offering was refused due to clear and obvious propaganda purposes.

    The ship was stopped and it will now be decided what to do with it.

    'Rachel Corrie' ignores Navy request to stop

    Pro-Palestinian activist says Rachel Corrie ship followed by three Israeli naval boats just a few dozen miles from blockaded Strip. Army offers no comment on its plans. Earlier, US official says vessel should sail to Ashdod in interest of safety

    Ynet reporters and AP
    Latest Update: 06.05.10, 09:10 / Israel News

    The Palestinian welcoming committee waiting for the Irish-owned Rachel Corrie aid vessel near the Gaza coast said Saturday morning that the ships had been seized by the Israeli Navy in high sees, about 55 kilometers (34 miles) from the Strip.

    "A number of Israeli ships encircled the vessel and stopped it from reaching the Gaza Strip," said the committee's spokesman, Amjad al-Shawa, who spoke to the ship's crew shortly before communication was cut off.

    Rami Abdo, the committees' coordinator, accused Israel of intentionally disrupting the communication means. He noted that senior Malaysian officials, including parliament members, were on the ship.

    The al-Jazeera network reported that the ship had been seized, but that no one had taken over it. An Israel Defense Forces official said the vessel was being monitored but did not confirm that it was stopped.

    A pro-Palestinian activist told The Associated Press that the Gaza-bound aid ship was just a few dozen miles from the blockaded Palestinian territory early Saturday, and was being tailed by three Israeli naval boats,

    "We have not been in touch with the ship for an hour and a half," Greta Berlin of the Free Gaza movement that sent the 1,200-ton Rachel Corrie told Ynet, adding that at around 7 am the vessel "was making its way from the Egypt area to Gaza."

    The activists' latest attempt to crack the blockade will test Israel's resolve as it faces a wave of international outrage over its deadly takeover of another aid ship earlier this week.

    Diplomatic fallout and protests across Europe and the Muslim world have increased pressure to end the embargo Israel imposed after the Islamic militant Hamas group seized power in Gaza three years ago. The blockade has plunged the territory's 1.5 million residents deeper into poverty and sharply raised Mideast tensions as the US makes a new push for regional peace.

    Shortly after 5 am Israel time, Greta Berlin said the vessel was 35 miles (56 kilometers) from Gaza's shores.


    "There were two warships in the back of them ... and a smaller boat was approaching," Berlin said from the movement's headquarters in Cyprus, citing a passenger on board.

    Israeli troops still hadn't boarded the Rachel Corrie nearly two hours later, and Free Gaza's lawyer, Audrey Bomse, said the Israeli vessels had not yet made contact with the activists' ship.

    Activists on board the Irish boat, including a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, have insisted they would not resist if Israeli soldiers tried to take over their vessel. They rejected Israeli and US appeals to bring the ship to an Israeli port instead.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his Cabinet on Thursday the Irish boat would not be allowed to reach Gaza. On Friday, Israel's foreign minister said the policy had not changed.

    "We have made it clear to the Irish and others, no ship will reach Gaza without a security inspection," Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told Channel 1 TV.
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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    Well it seems like the ship wasn't stopped yet, but Israel has delivered constant warnings to its crew and they've so far refused to stop.
    Israeli forces would most likely board the ship in a few hours.

    Israel 'threatens to board' Gaza aid ship Rachel Corrie

    Israeli troops will board an Irish-owned aid ship attempting to break the blockade of Gaza if it does not change course, Israel's military says.

    The MV Rachel Corrie was instructed to dock at the Israeli port of Ashdod but has not complied, Israel says.

    "If they won't leave us any choice, we'll have to board the ship," Lt-Col Avital Liebovich told Reuters.

    It comes days after Israeli commandos stormed a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Clashes on board left nine people dead.

    That raid brought strong condemnation of Israel, especially from Turkey, from where most of the victims came.

    The Rachel Corrie is believed to be in international waters, about 35 miles (56km) off the Israeli coast.

    Israel says it has radioed the aid ship but received no response.

    "We indicated several times to the organisers aboard the ship that they should head to the port of Ashdod as there is a blockade in force on the Gaza Strip, but they ignored our appeals and are continuing to head towards Gaza," an unnamed military spokeswoman said, AFP news agency reported.
    BBC News - Israel threatens to board Gaza aid ship Rachel Corrie
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    Re: Ireland: Rachel Corrie won't dock at Ashdod

    The ship was boarded and full control achieved within 5 minutes, no resistance at all, no violence, no casualties.
    It's making its way now to the Ashdod port.

    Netanyahu has stated: "Today we have witnessed the difference between a flotilla of peace and a flotilla of hatred".
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