There is going to be some backlash any time you try to do something responsible. **** the threats by the doctors. Congress needs to do this. Welcome to government funded healthcare and the limits to coverage and service. It is a necessary evil if you want the government involved in healthcare. We will no longer see the level of care and service that we have today for people who have healthcare coverage. Those days are over now that we have decided that everyone deserves healthcare. For the record I think the current plan we have is irresponsible but I do agree that we have to address the issue of people who truly cannot afford healthcare. But we don't need to spend massive amounts of money to accomplish it.
in other words, we're on the fast track to greece and there's no way out
i'm very sorry
I actually somewhat agree with you about this healthcare bill, but for almost opposite reasons, as strange as it sounds. Our current system is fundamentally flawed, that much should be obvious to everybody by now. We love to focus on single-issues. It's the greedy insurance companies' fault. No, it's malpractice lawsuits and defensive medicine. No it's prescription drugs being too expensive and being prescribed to too many people. No it's a lack of proper competition. In reality, it's all of these things and more. The underlying system is broken, and this bill slaps a few very expensive pieces of duct tape on it. Yes, there are a lot of people that this bill will help, but in the end we still have the broken machinery to deal with. The pre-existing conditions problem had to end. Yes, it costs money to do that, but it's necessary. We need a serious change. Yes, that means big scary government will have to do things. No, that doesn't mean it will be a single federal agency taking direct control of everything. This may come to a surprise to some people, but there are countries with universal health care that deliver care entirely through private insurance companies and private practitioners. (well, almost. there's usually a few state-run hospitals thrown in the mix or VA-type hospitals)
Personally, I think we need to treat health insurance more like a utility. There's still plenty of state and local control, but you can also eliminate some of the waste by taking out profit motives. There are certain services in this country that we decided were too basic or too important to be left to the free market. Other services don't lend themselves well to the normal market pressures for various reasons. You know, we liberals prefer private industry as a rule too. Generally speaking, market competition is good for the consumer. Unfortunately, health care is a service who's need can't be predicted, the cost of a single event can easily overwhelm the average family's finances, and it can literally be life-or death. This totally screws up the usually supply/demand balance. Making things worse, you have very little ability to judge your insurance "product," because you pay for it for years before you actually receive it. (health crisis arises and you submit a claim) Only then can you find out whether your insurance company is going to treat you well. If Toshiba sells you a broken TV, you bring it back and next time you buy a Sony. If your health insurance company denies a claim, you're stuck with a huge bill and have already paid out tens of thousands of dollars in premiums.
One of you will end up here next!
how can any thinking, reading person expect united states political leadership, 2010, to exhibit suddenly the courage, far sightedness, patriotism, maturity, etc, required to take these draconian steps towards fiscal balance even little malia obama understands are required?
just as it's in-your-face obvious that daddy needs to plug the leak, malia also perceives, almost primordially, that you can't get 20 gallons of water out of a 10 gallon bucket
yes, we all know what needs to be done, but exactly what is it in the real world that inspires anyone even half as intelligent as the fellas and felines in these forums to feel any confidence that any kind of follow-thru is forthcoming?
from these folks?
why all the misplaced faith?
THIS IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP, you must bear in mind, THAT IS TOO PUSILLANIMOUS EVEN TO PROPOSE A BUDGET FOR 2011
Budget woes? Just don't pass one - Los Angeles Times
one can learn a great deal from post grad texts, there's no substitute for em, tis true
but if one keeps one's nose in em exclusively without looking around at, y'know, people and events, one might well miss the obvious
such as, it might be misguided to hold out a lot of hope for responsible leadership from a group of politicos too poltroonish, too paper tiger to produce even a basic blueprint
again, i'm very sorry
Last edited by The Prof; 06-04-10 at 12:25 PM.
and don't forget, after the doc fix (a quarter T), the double counting called out by cbo (another quarter T), the 10 years of taxes vs only 6 of benefits, there is also this murderous "mother of unfunded mandates" making miserable such prominent blue gubs as bill richardson, bill ritter, christine gregoire, phil bredesen, brian schweitzer...
that's another 200B that's by definition not paid for
Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe
so, putting aside all our pretty ideals and perfect-world posings...
and, after closing up our TEXTBOOKS and looking around...
for us remaining realists, it is all sadly exactly what it is
THIS bill is a PIG
Last edited by The Prof; 06-04-10 at 02:05 PM.
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)