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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    It is wishful thinking to believe that the Obama administration will do anything to add credibility to and respect to America at this point. I voted for the man, I had certainly hoped for the same, but it's been a down hill slide in my opinion from day one. At least in the "credibility and respect" department. He's a politician, just like W, just like those before him. The system changes for no administration...and no administration can or really wants to change it in the first place.

    SO SORRY, but my opinion to your opinion is that you have made a lame excuse for Bush's Failure to watch and keep a strong hand on what was going on in Washington and the Country, His administration is directly responsible for the
    melt-down, AND THE SNOWBALLING OF ALL THE DEBT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW, bail outs of the Banks , Wall Street , and the Car Industry, ect. ect.
    His Administration dumped the country in the ditch with high unemployment and a mountain of debt after spending up all the Surplus Money...
    When will the sheeples stop shifting the blame for this economic mess on Obama and learn that he is Simply the Clean up Man and not a magican...It took all of 8 years or more to get where we are now and GOD only knows how much time it will take to dig the country out of this mess and troubled times.
    But he need some time and the American sheeples should stop acting like spoiled kids and grow up and learn how the Political Machine work... It is a slow machine that moves when Changes are implicated .

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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    It is wishful thinking to believe that the Obama administration will do anything to add credibility to and respect to America at this point. I voted for the man, I had certainly hoped for the same, but it's been a down hill slide in my opinion from day one. At least in the "credibility and respect" department. He's a politician, just like W, just like those before him. The system changes for no administration...and no administration can or really wants to change it in the first place.

    MY OPINION IS, THIS IS NOT A VERY ACCURATE OPINION...It's been a down hill slide since Obama came to the Oval Office ???????? Now,Now, Brown Cow the Country had already slid into the ditch before Obama EVER put his foot in the Office in DC.... This is no time for the Blame Game.... It is time to Change the Game !!!!

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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie T. Mouse View Post
    MY OPINION IS, THIS IS NOT A VERY ACCURATE OPINION...It's been a down hill slide since Obama came to the Oval Office ???????? Now,Now, Brown Cow the Country had already slid into the ditch before Obama EVER put his foot in the Office in DC.... This is no time for the Blame Game.... It is time to Change the Game !!!!

    (uhh, what....???)



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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Never, Bush and Cheney never committed war crimes.

    Are you being serious? The ones setting bad examples for the world are the UN and the EU. Just look at how they treat Israel and how they treat other conflicts. Look at how they treat Iran and the course of action they are taking with North Korea. Obama is dishonoring this country and acting exceedingly foolish when it comes to foreign policy. The world has become such a weak place where the wicked can rise up and the good only yell for "crippling sanctions" that never get put in place.
    Yeah, I am being very, very , serious, Bush was an awful, shameful, and a pretty dumb cowboy and he didn't even
    Cowboy-Up to his job as President and smoke Osama Bin out of the caves as Promised..
    Some people haven''t forgotten his promise and are still shaking their heads in wonder as to why he invaded Iraq and we are still waiting on those weapons of mass destruction.... The Bush years Brought the Good Ole U.S.A. to it's knees in debt,
    Anti- American sentiments and wars and more wars in the Middle East..

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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Can we file this under "DUH"?
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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    This is another one of those black and white topics people love to have instead of a grey area and one where i always get labeled on my stance like gay rights, abortion, gun laws etc.
    Exactly way im a centrist/independent

    While i did not like bush "water boarding" war criminals or terrorist never bothered me on bit for so many reasons, some of them already listed
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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie T. Mouse View Post
    SO SORRY, but my opinion to your opinion is that you have made a lame excuse for Bush's Failure to watch and keep a strong hand on what was going on in Washington and the Country, His administration is directly responsible for the
    melt-down,
    No actually that would be Freddie Mac and Fannie May who the Democrats had a love affair with.

    AND THE SNOWBALLING OF ALL THE DEBT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW, bail outs of the Banks , Wall Street , and the Car Industry, ect. ect.
    Democrats supported granting loans to people who couldn't afford them just as much as the Republicans if not more so. The Democrats were the ones who stood in the way of Republicans attempting to tighten regulations against Freddie Mac and Franny Mae.

    His Administration dumped the country in the ditch with high unemployment
    lol unemployment didn't start to increase until the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and the White House.

    and a mountain of debt after spending up all the Surplus Money...
    Holy **** you're misinformed, the national debt increased every single year Clinton was in office, the Clinton surplus is a god damn myth because democrats try to ignore money borrowed against social security and the interest charged us on our outstanding debt.

    When will the sheeples stop shifting the blame for this economic mess on Obama and learn that he is Simply the Clean up Man and not a magican...It took all of 8 years or more to get where we are now and GOD only knows how much time it will take to dig the country out of this mess and troubled times.
    But he need some time and the American sheeples should stop acting like spoiled kids and grow up and learn how the Political Machine work... It is a slow machine that moves when Changes are implicated .
    Um the Democrats have controlled Congress for more than 3 and a half years now. The economy was thriving under Bush.

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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not true. I have a first hand account:

    my face was covered by a cloth and a tap feeding a hose-pipe was turned on.

    Waterboarding: the most horrific experience of my life
    You are a smart one aren't, why don't you share with us very next ****ing line:

    "To encourage me to say something the senior Japanese man beat me from time to time with the branch of a tree."

    Thanks for playing.

    From that article:

    In case anyone is still in doubt whether the water torture is, or is not, torture I shall refer to a Japanese Army document, which is authoritative. I have an extract from the Japanese Secret War Service Guide, headed '”Fundamental Rules for Interrogating War Prisoners”. This was probably issued in the Kwantung Army in Manchuria in 1938. In the list of “official” tortures item No 3 reads: “Putting the person interrogated on his back (it is advisable to raise the feet a little) and dripping water into the nose and mouth simultaneously.” A later section draws attention to the importance of minimising the disturbance caused by victims' screams.
    Once again the Japanese went much further than what we do, as per your own article.

    This is the type of waterboarding conducted by the Japanese:

    (2) ... Water torture. There were 2 forms of water torture. In the first the victim was tied or held down on his back and a cloth placed over his nose and mouth. Water was then poured on the cloth. Interrogation proceeded and the victim was beated if he did not reply. As he opened his mouth to breathe or to answer questions, water went down his throat until he could not hold anymore. Sometimes he was then beaten over his distended stomach , sometimes a Jap. jumped on his stomach or sometimes pressed on it with his foot. In the 2nd, the victim was tied lengthways on a ladder face upwards with a rung of the ladder across his throat and his head below the ladder. In his position he was slid head first into a tub of water and kept there until almost drowned. After being revived interrogation continued and he would be re-immersed.

    http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_1997/yax-057.htm
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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie T. Mouse View Post
    Yeah, I am being very, very , serious, Bush was an awful, shameful, and a pretty dumb cowboy and he didn't even
    Cowboy-Up to his job as President and smoke Osama Bin out of the caves as Promised..
    Some people haven''t forgotten his promise and are still shaking their heads in wonder as to why he invaded Iraq and we are still waiting on those weapons of mass destruction.... The Bush years Brought the Good Ole U.S.A. to it's knees in debt,
    Anti- American sentiments and wars and more wars in the Middle East..
    At least he wasn't sucking off Saddam Hussein for oil contracts like your President Jaque Chiraq was at the time.

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    Re: Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    You are a smart one aren't, why don't you share with us very next ****ing line:

    "To encourage me to say something the senior Japanese man beat me from time to time with the branch of a tree."

    Thanks for playing.



    Once again the Japanese went much further than what we do, as per your own article.

    This is the type of waterboarding conducted by the Japanese:
    I linked it. But whether he beat him or not, the procedure, which is what we're disputing, was the same. They didn't do what you claimed, filling his stomach with water, distending it, and beating the distended stomach. The waterboarding procedure was the same as we use today. They did not go further with the procedure of waterboarding. Both types have the same result, drowning.

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