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    Bravo for overstepping their authority once again...

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Hmmm... I would say adopt the system we had here in my old province of Nova Scotia which seemed to be fair enough though I think they just changed it.

    You turn 16, you get a learners license, if you take a full driving instruction course you can have what's called an "N" license after 3 months, which allows you to drive whenever you want just not between the hours of 12 at night, til 6 in the morning. And then after 2 years of holding that license you can get your Full which allows you to drive obviously whenever.

    The fact is, I was one of the few teenage drivers at my school who weren't reckless and dangerous drivers, most teenagers just aren't good drivers at first. I don't know if I'd support this proposal, but letting kids just go at it at 16 might not be such a good idea.

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    All fine and dandy, but Congress lacks the authority to mandate such a law since this isn't a delegated power to the federal government under the Constitution of the United States. Thus, the Tenth Amendment applies making it a states issue to regulate, which has worked quite well for as long as licenses and permits have been in existence. I predict this law will end up like REAL ID by being ignored by the state governments.

    For what it's worth, I got my permit at 14 and drove for two years before getting my license at 16. I had to take driver's education in school before I got my license.

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Just another backdoor attempt to get REAL ID implemented.
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    All fine and dandy, but Congress lacks the authority to mandate such a law since this isn't a delegated power to the federal government under the Constitution of the United States. Thus, the Tenth Amendment applies making it a states issue to regulate, which has worked quite well for as long as licenses and permits have been in existence. I predict this law will end up like REAL ID by being ignored by the state governments.

    For what it's worth, I got my permit at 14 and drove for two years before getting my license at 16. I had to take driver's education in school before I got my license.
    If they really want to do it, they'll just do what they did with the drinking age: make federal funds contingent on state enactment of laws that meet the federal standard.
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Whether or not Congress decides to stick their nose in state business, it is still MY decision when my kids get to drive and in Tennessee with the treacherous backroads we have it will not be at 16!! Learner's permit for a good while and then we'll see....
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    This is a national issue, not just a state issue. 16 year old drivers can cross the borders into other states.

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    This is a national issue, not just a state issue. 16 year old drivers can cross the borders into other states.
    Yes, they can, but the only way it becomes a national issue is if they're engaged in the selling or buying goods commercially across state lines via the Commerce Clause. The last time I checked that a 16 year old cannot get a CDL. You need to be 18 or 21 depending upon the state that issues the licenses.

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Yes, they can, but the only way it becomes a national issue is if they're engaged in the selling or buying goods commercially across state lines via the Commerce Clause. The last time I checked that a 16 year old cannot get a CDL. You need to be 18 or 21 depending upon the state that issues the licenses.
    Driver's license laws vary widely from state to state. For example, only eight states and Washington, D.C., require a minimum entry age of 16, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. Only 10 states require teenagers to hold a learner's permit for more than six months. Others have less stringent requirements, such as New Hampshire, which doesn't even have a mandatory period for holding a permit.
    There needs to be a national standard. Or at the very least a set minimum standard. Whether these teens are carrying comercial goods is irrelevant. My point is that these inexperienced drivers can cross state borders and potentially be involved in accidents because of their inexperience.

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    There needs to be a national standard. Or at the very least a set minimum standard. Whether these teens are carrying comercial goods is irrelevant. My point is that these inexperienced drivers can cross state borders and potentially be involved in accidents because of their inexperience.
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