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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    why not have a federal standard? what's the problem with that?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The Fed's controlling this is not the answer.
    Not having a driving permit period is rediculous. If someone I knew was involved in an accident with a 16 year old driver who never had a pemit period, I'd be outraged.

    I'm not saying the driving age should be set to 18... I absolutely think that should be a state right to decide that. But there needs to be a minimum requirement for new drivers (i.e. the permit period)


    BTW why aren't more people reading this thread? This can be a big deal!

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    All fine and dandy, but Congress lacks the authority to mandate such a law since this isn't a delegated power to the federal government under the Constitution of the United States.
    When was the last time that stopped them? In the end, it's correct that this is clearly a State issue and nothing more. The Federal government has no rightful juristiction in it and no rightful power to make the law.
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    There needs to be a national standard. Or at the very least a set minimum standard. Whether these teens are carrying comercial goods is irrelevant. My point is that these inexperienced drivers can cross state borders and potentially be involved in accidents because of their inexperience.
    Of course they can. But that doesn't mean the federal government gets to regulate it. We can get injured by a great many things which can cross boarders; it's not all automatically in the federal jurisdiction. So while teens are inexperienced and can cause accidents, that's just part of the way it is. It's not justification for the expansion of government. It's part of life, so deal with it.
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Honestly, I support this. In my state you can get a permit at 15 and a license at 16. This is way too young to be driving. Teenagers are for the most part, very stupid. They probably ride on mommy and daddy's gas and insurance and feel no consequence for hitting someone or getting a ticket. I support what congress is doing with this. I have no problem with federal standards either.
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Honestly, I support this. In my state you can get a permit at 15 and a license at 16. This is way too young to be driving. Teenagers are for the most part, very stupid. They probably ride on mommy and daddy's gas and insurance and feel no consequence for hitting someone or getting a ticket. I support what congress is doing with this. I have no problem with federal standards either.
    I was driving bigger ****ing **** than a car before 15. And there's a premit period, you get your permit at 15. You take drivers ed, you take the tests, if you can pass then you can pass and that's that. Make the tests more challenging if you're that damned worried about it. Otherwise, while car fatalities are one of the higher causes of deaths and grevious injury particularly for younger people, considerering the number of people and cars out there, they're a relatively low frequency.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Not having a driving permit period is rediculous.
    Believing you have a blanket solution to a complex issue, now THAT'S ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    If someone I knew was involved in an accident with a 16 year old driver who never had a pemit period, I'd be outraged.
    But if you knew someone involved in an accident with a 16 year old who had a permit period you'd be cool with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I'm not saying the driving age should be set to 18... I absolutely think that should be a state right to decide that.
    Good, cause a lot of kids, rural areas, depend on driving to work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    But there needs to be a minimum requirement for new drivers (i.e. the permit period)
    Why stop at a permit period? New drivers should have GPS Tracking, Camera's in the car.... just think of all the lives that could be saved with more Gov't CONTROL!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    BTW why aren't more people reading this thread? This can be a big deal!
    Cause most people aren't that excited by the thought of the US Gov't dictating another aspect of our lives.
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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    why not have a federal standard? what's the problem with that?
    There is a federal standard in Education, how's that NCLB working out for you?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    There needs to be a national standard. Or at the very least a set minimum standard. Whether these teens are carrying comercial goods is irrelevant. My point is that these inexperienced drivers can cross state borders and potentially be involved in accidents because of their inexperience.
    The federal government lacks the authority to perform such an act. Their jurisdiction is limited to government buildings, Washington DC, territories of the federal government, and military bases. Within state borders, it is the state's jurisdiction. The only way to invoke federal jurisdiction is through the Commerce clause and that is if a teen driver is engaged in the transportation of commercial goods.

    When did you learn how to start driving and what procedures did you have to go through? How many accidents have you had? How many tickets for speeding and reckless endangerment/DUIs have you had?

    I started driving at the age of 14 and had to drive with a licensed adult for 2 years plus go through driver's education before I could get my license at 16. I've had 4 accidents in 27 years of driving and three speeding tickets with no DUIs or reckless endangerment tickets. Obviously the way the system is designed works or there would be more people dead on the highways then there are now.

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    Re: Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

    perhaps you could answer the question.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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