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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Gardener, can you stop trolling and actually try and debate this issue?

    In the other thread, you made a similar comment, but said nothing of value.
    You just called those who do not support the racist thugs who lynched the Israelis names, intimated that Jews could not be reliable and said that it is those who do not share in your support for these Islamist terrorist supporters who are eating up the propaganda.

    Speaking of saying absolutely nothing of value.....
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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    So they deserved to die then, I guess, right?
    Link to where I said that?

    You claimed that we shouldn't believe this because it came from Israeli news sources. I provided a video showing one of the activists doing exactly what the article said they did.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Link to where I said that?

    You claimed that we shouldn't believe this because it came from Israeli news sources. I provided a video showing one of the activists doing exactly what the article said they did.
    Fair enough. Do you agree that the killings of these civillians were wrong?
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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You just called those who do not support the racist thugs who lynched the Israelis names, intimated that Jews could not be reliable and said that it is those who do not share in your support for these Islamist terrorist supporters who are eating up the propaganda.

    Speaking of saying absolutely nothing of value.....
    Why do you insist on avoiding the topic at hand?

    And I know what your trying to insinuate here, and I think you should be careful.
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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    So they deserved to die then, I guess, right?

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    Here are your heroes in action.

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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Here are your heroes in action.

    These people had the right to defend themselves. I will say for the millionth time, this happened in International waters.
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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Fair enough. Do you agree that the killings of these civillians were wrong?
    One has to judge each death individually based on the evidence. Some of the deaths MAY have been unjustified but then again ALL of them may have been justified. I don't know yet and neither do you.

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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    These people had the right to defend themselves. I will say for the millionth time, this happened in International waters.
    Yes, you support the right of these genocidal racists to initiate lynchings against the target of their hatred.

    You have made that abundantly clear.
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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    One has to judge each death individually based on the evidence. Some of the deaths MAY have been unjustified but then again ALL of them may have been justified. I don't know yet and neither do you.
    True. But Israel had no right to board those ships, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the deaths of these people. Besides, you didn't see any reports of any Israeli soldiers being killed.
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    Re: 3 flotilla fatalities 'dreamt of martyrdom'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    These people had the right to defend themselves. I will say for the millionth time, this happened in International waters.
    I think this is where the argument must shift. Once the troops were on the deck, I believe they had no choice but to defend themselves, they were put in a precarious situation, had I been on the deck and faced with all those people, I probably would have opened fire too. If I were the pilot and saw the people on the deck I would have aborted.

    I think the argument must shift as to whether it was the right decision to land the troops on the ships? Couldn't the navy have dealt with the situation when they came near the blockade? Why did they have to send these guys in? Especially now as we've discovered there have been no weapons found... where did they get the intelligence that there may have been?

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