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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    Exactly. This so called "genius" doesn't understand "pressure" and "physics" I guess. lol.
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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The pressure at a depth of 5000+ft is approximately 1780 psi, so one would have to inflate the tire to 1780 psi just to achieve equal pressure. On the ocean floor, if you then proceed to mount a tire inflated to 1780 psi to a car, it would be flat.

    If my math is correct, then if you wanted a tire with a maximum rated psi of 45lbs to be fully inflated at a depth of 5,000ft, then you would have to inflate the tire to 80,100psi. Given the pressure exerted by the environment at that depth, the tire should behave as though it were inflated to 45psi at ocean level.
    Its structure would be compromised by the pressure before one even got the chance to begin inflating it. Only the most durable materials can survive such pressure.

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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    Plus, inflating a tire is a ****ing pain in the ass on the side of I-95. Just imagine doing it at 5000 feet underwater. How are you supposed to twist off that stupid little valve cap? And good luck operating that stupid little foot pump they give you with the spare tire kit, that thing is freaking useless. And whose idea was it to make this extra tire a different size anyway? That's just what we need, tires attached to the same axle of DIFFERENT SIZES.

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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    The oil and gas industry is well aware of inflatable bags or bladders made specifically for use as pipe plugs.

    Hey, at least she's trying.

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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    A tire wouldn't work for the reasons mentioned above, but couldn't some type of ultra-durable and somewhat inflatable material serve a similar purpose?
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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    They use telescoping pipe to go into the earth, for the oil well. Why can't they use the same, or similar, going up to the ship or into a smaller hose/tube that goes to the ship?

    Or bring a tube down over the end of the spewing pipe. It could also lead up to smaller tubes then into a ship. The kind of tube I'm thinking of is the kind roofers throw debris down that goes right into a dump truck. It doesn't have to be pipe or even leak proof. All its purpose is is to lead the oil some place. Hell, if they could slow this down to 100 barrels a day that would be considered a huge success.

    There must be many ways they can at least try to control the leak until they can stop it.
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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    A tire wouldn't work for the reasons mentioned above, but couldn't some type of ultra-durable and somewhat inflatable material serve a similar purpose?
    The biggest problem with her plan is that the drill string is inside the riser. Once they finish the wire saw cut and the riser is open at the top of the BOP, 3 things can happen...

    1 - The weight of the drill string overcomes the flow, and falls down the hole.

    2 - The force of the flow shoots the drill string out the top.

    3 - The rams inside the BOP hold the drill string in place.

    Now they all THINK that 3 is what will happen. In that case there will be a 7" pipe inside of a 21" pipe, both cut flush with eachother. At that point it will be easier to CAP the flow than it will be to insert anything INTO the flow.

    They pretty much already did exactly what she is proposing at the end of the damaged riser, where the smaller of the 2 initial leaks were. They didn't have great success with that capture method, and the LMRP cap will theoretically be able to catch a much higher percentage of the total flow.
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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    They use telescoping pipe to go into the earth, for the oil well. Why can't they use the same, or similar, going up to the ship or into a smaller hose/tube that goes to the ship?

    Or bring a tube down over the end of the spewing pipe. It could also lead up to smaller tubes then into a ship. The kind of tube I'm thinking of is the kind roofers throw debris down that goes right into a dump truck. It doesn't have to be pipe or even leak proof. All its purpose is is to lead the oil some place. Hell, if they could slow this down to 100 barrels a day that would be considered a huge success.

    There must be many ways they can at least try to control the leak until they can stop it.
    That is pretty much what the LMRP cap will do. You have to remember the force of that flow and how tricky that connection is... it's not something you can just dangle a hose over and expect to start sucking up. With the pressure down there that deep, there is a lot of gas hydrates being formed. I am no chemist so I won't try to explain the exact process, but basically the methane molecules are forced to bond with a hydrogen molecule when the pressure is that high, they all clump together, and eventually form a crystaline like "crust" on everything. This is what caused the tophat style of collection to fail, and the only way to eliminate it is to keep the methane from touching the water.

    That brings us to the situation we have now where they are trying to cut off all the damaged stuff, so they can get a better seal and hopefully at least cut back on the hydrate formation. If they succeed and the collection hose no longer gets clogged with hydrates, it is not out of the question that the leak will be reduced to that low of a number.
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    Re: I can plug oil leak, says NY genius

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Its structure would be compromised by the pressure before one even got the chance to begin inflating it. Only the most durable materials can survive such pressure.
    Hmm I didn't think of that.

    Even if you have equal pressure inside and out, that's still an ungodly force sandwiching the material between the internal and external pressures. +1 internetz for you.

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