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Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

You seem to have missed the documentation earlier this thread that shows a great deal has been done to clean up this spill. Funny that.

You mean from the Huffington Post? ROTFMAO

No, it hasn't. That's why Carville, Jindal, etc, down in Louisiana are screaming their heads off at Obama right now.
 
You mean from the Huffington Post? ROTFMAO

No, it hasn't. That's why Carville, Jindal, etc, down in Louisiana are screaming their heads off at Obama right now.

You need to read the source material. It's an AP article. Let me guess, AP is too liberal for you too.
 
Criminal neglience resulting in environmental disaster, loss of economic and ecological resources, the death of workers, etc.


I think we could also charge people in the last three administrations as well. Including the current one who wanted to gut the Coast Guards response teams for such a disaster.


I do agree that this is political spin but if they wanted to charge BP there are ways to do it. I personally would just be satisfied with BP being sued and their stocks dropping until they are in the poor house. The fact that the oil is still spilling out after all this time is a complete travesty and someone has to pay.



Me to, so I can buy a ton of thier stock when its in the tank, and make fat stacks when they recover. :shrug:
 
msnbc's willie geist interviewed grand isle councilman je jay lefont this morning

lafont: "i don't see a skimmer in sight, there's nothing out there"

"no effort's being made on bp's or the federal govt's or anyone's part..."
 
msnbc's willie geist interviewed grand isle councilman je jay lefont this morning

lafont: "i don't see a skimmer in sight, there's nothing out there"

"no effort's being made on bp's or the federal govt's or anyone's part..."

So the 20k people working on the cleanup must be invisible...

Gulf oil spill clean-up uncertain - Americas - Al Jazeera English

Facts are good, hyperbole not so much.

He must not be able to see things like this either:

800px-Controlled_burn_of_oil_on_May_19th.JPG
 
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Huffington Post and Al Jazeera.

Now I know where you get your news. LOL

The gulf should be teaming with ships trying to contain this with different measures. Not so much.

So you are still confused as to what the AP is I see. Also unable to figure out where the image is from.
 
So you are still confused as to what the AP is I see. Also unable to figure out where the image is from.

Are you referring to the original post link? Not much there about federal efforts for cleanup.

And your image shows four boats and a couple of fires THREE WEEKS AGO!
 
What do you expect, Redress? When this disaster first happened, Erod claimed that it wasn't such a big deal because oil is natural. :rofl
 
What do you expect, Redress? When this disaster first happened, Erod claimed that it wasn't such a big deal because oil is natural. :rofl

That was before I knew this was going to go on until Christmas, but nice job trying to get Redress out of the corner he's painted himself into. LOL
 
I seemed to have rushed my OP, when I said that a criminal investigation was wrong. Since I posted it, I watched the news this morning, and there does seem to be a valid basis for a criminal investigation. This goes to the argument between the BP official and the Trans Ocean supervisor aboard the rig, who accused the BP brass of ordering shortcuts to be taken, shortcuts that endangered the rig and everybody on it. Just now, I searched for this information, and here it is.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37363106/ns/gulf_oil_spill/

So, to sum it up, I ran my big mouth before I had all the facts. It's not the first time that I have done this, and it probably won't be the last time either. However, I now stand corrected. I am now in favor of the criminal investigation, and if it shows this information to be true, then BP should be criminally charged with negligent homicide.

Let me also add that changing one's mind, due to new information, or information he had seen but had forgotten, is not flip flopping. It is called honesty. So my bad on the OP. Let the criminal investigation happen, and wherever it leads, let the appropriate action be taken.
 
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Are you referring to the original post link? Not much there about federal efforts for cleanup.

And your image shows four boats and a couple of fires THREE WEEKS AGO!

I dunno, let's see if I can find anything about hte federal cleanup efforts in my first link:

Federal officials say cleaning up the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has already cost the government $87 million, making it the third-most expensive cleanup effort in the nation's history.

Yeah, looks like the federal government is doing something.

The second link, which shows just one example of a small part of the cleanup effort that you on the right are trying to claim has not started yet, started at least 3 weeks ago(it actually started before that). I have also shown 20k people working on the cleanup effort. Those darn facts just keep getting in your way.
 
That was before I knew this was going to go on until Christmas, but nice job trying to get Redress out of the corner he's painted himself into. LOL

Wait. She was not joking, you actually said that? And you are trying to suggest that the factual information I provided was paining myself into a corner?
 
I dunno, let's see if I can find anything about hte federal cleanup efforts in my first link:



Yeah, looks like the federal government is doing something.

The second link, which shows just one example of a small part of the cleanup effort that you on the right are trying to claim has not started yet, started at least 3 weeks ago(it actually started before that). I have also shown 20k people working on the cleanup effort. Those darn facts just keep getting in your way.

And......we're back to the Huffington Post. Yummy.

I will direct you to the dozen or so links in this thread that you seem to want to ignore entirely.
 
I believe that I am about to take a very unpopular position here, but I take this position because of logic, not emotion.

OK, civil investigations? I can go with that. BP cut a lot of corners, misled the public, and in general, acted like complete douche bags. Sue them.

But for the criminal investigations, I have some questions. Which laws of the land did BP violate? Did they commit perjury by lying under oath? Did they offer any kind of hush money to keep the extent of the spill secret? Doesn't look like it to me.

I have a strong feeling that this is not so much about finding out if BP broke the law, but to mitigate the political damage to Obama over this incident, and also to have a scapegoat to point at. Yes, BP needs to be held accountable for the damage they caused, and made to pay a price, but a witch hunt of any kind is going to be detrimental to finding a solution that will keep this from ever happening again.

I will follow the discussion here, as I put on my flame proof suit. :mrgreen:

Article is here.


Forgive me for not reading the entire huge thread and perhaps saying what has already been said:

If corporations want to have all the benefits of being considered "persons" under the law, then they need to take the negatives as well, which include being liable for criminal activity.
 
So the 20k people working on the cleanup must be invisible...

if the councilman can't see em, they're probably not there

LOL!

maybe al jazeera can see em

EVERYONE, in stark contrast, can see the lawsuit

that's presidential hi profile

presidential p-r-i-o-r-i-t-y
 
And......we're back to the Huffington Post. Yummy.

I will direct you to the dozen or so links in this thread that you seem to want to ignore entirely.

No, we are back to the AP story that was reposted in the Huffington post. I know that is confusing, but actually click on the link and notice right under the headline is says:

The Associated Press | 05/27/10 04:10 PM | AP

Rough stuff to do. Might take you almost 5 seconds.
 
if the councilman can't see em, they're probably not there

LOL!

maybe al jazeera can see em

EVERYONE, in stark contrast, can see the lawsuit

that's presidential hi profile

presidential p-r-i-o-r-i-t-y

Or, it could mean he is not looking where the people are, or he is not knowing what to look for, or he is trying to score political points. I have documented cleanup efforts. Your claims otherwise are obviously inaccurate.
 
He must not be able to see things like this either

a couple boats trying to put out a fire?

LOL!

that's the national mobilization to clean up and save the gulf the locals are crying for?

unbelievable
 
a couple boats trying to put out a fire?

LOL!

that's the national mobilization to clean up and save the gulf the locals are crying for?

unbelievable

It's called a controlled burn, and it's more than a couple boats in that picture.
 
No, we are back to the AP story that was reposted in the Huffington post. I know that is confusing, but actually click on the link and notice right under the headline is says:



Rough stuff to do. Might take you almost 5 seconds.

OK, I'll bite. We spent $87 million. On what? Nobody in Lousiana sees anything, even folks from your own party.

Hell, we've spent twice that on healthcare, and it won't kick in for four more years.
 
Or, it could mean he is not looking where the people are

ya think?

LOL!

or he is not knowing what to look for

sure, grand isle councilman screens the glare of the sun with his hand like a visor, looking out over rust colored sea and globs of goo on the once golden strand...

can't find what?

the mermaids?

unbelievable
 
ya think?

LOL!



sure, grand isle councilman screens the glare of the sun with his hand like a visor, looking out over rust colored sea and globs of goo on the once golden strand...

can't find what?

the mermaids?

unbelievable

There is an unreal amount of cleanup being done, if he cannot find it, he is not looking.

100's of ships and smaller boats, 55km of deployed boom, another 91k being deployed, water released from the Mississippi river to create an outflow to help keep oil off the coast, 655,000 gallons of dispersant used.

The claim that nothing is being done is a flat out lie. It's not true, as any quick google search would prove.
 
spending is not cleaning

bp says it's spent 700 million cleaning

y'want the link?

(it's in the first afp piece i put up)
 
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