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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    a couple boats trying to put out a fire?

    LOL!

    that's the national mobilization to clean up and save the gulf the locals are crying for?

    unbelievable
    It's called a controlled burn, and it's more than a couple boats in that picture.
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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, we are back to the AP story that was reposted in the Huffington post. I know that is confusing, but actually click on the link and notice right under the headline is says:



    Rough stuff to do. Might take you almost 5 seconds.
    OK, I'll bite. We spent $87 million. On what? Nobody in Lousiana sees anything, even folks from your own party.

    Hell, we've spent twice that on healthcare, and it won't kick in for four more years.

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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or, it could mean he is not looking where the people are
    ya think?

    LOL!

    or he is not knowing what to look for
    sure, grand isle councilman screens the glare of the sun with his hand like a visor, looking out over rust colored sea and globs of goo on the once golden strand...

    can't find what?

    the mermaids?

    unbelievable

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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ya think?

    LOL!



    sure, grand isle councilman screens the glare of the sun with his hand like a visor, looking out over rust colored sea and globs of goo on the once golden strand...

    can't find what?

    the mermaids?

    unbelievable
    There is an unreal amount of cleanup being done, if he cannot find it, he is not looking.

    100's of ships and smaller boats, 55km of deployed boom, another 91k being deployed, water released from the Mississippi river to create an outflow to help keep oil off the coast, 655,000 gallons of dispersant used.

    The claim that nothing is being done is a flat out lie. It's not true, as any quick google search would prove.
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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    spending is not cleaning

    bp says it's spent 700 million cleaning

    y'want the link?

    (it's in the first afp piece i put up)

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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is an unreal amount of cleanup being done
    tell it to the locals

    if he cannot find it, he is not looking.
    unbelievable

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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tell it to the locals



    unbelievable
    Why not tell it to the person spreading the claim here? Why don't you take responsibility for your own posts?
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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    james carville, a cajun:

    "the political stupidity of this is just unbelievable that the president doesn't get down here in the middle of this, i have no idea why they didn't seize this thing, i have no idea why their attitude is so hands-offy, the president of the united states could have come down here, he could have been involved with the families, he could have commandeered research vessels in the gulf of mexico, he could have demanded a plan in anticipation of this, last nite i was on larry king with the former ceo of shell, they said they got 85% of this cleaned up in the gulf of saudi arabia, he could be commandeering tankers and making bp bring tankers in and clean this thing up, they could be deploying people to the coast right now, he could be with the corps of engineers and the coast guard with these people in plaquemines parish doing something about these regulations, these people are crying, they're begging for something down here and it just looks like he's not involved in this, man, and you gotta get down here and take control of this, put somebody in charge of this thing and get this thing moving, we're about to die down here, there's a thousand things he could be doing and he just needs to get down here and start doing something"

    BP Oil Spill Becoming Political Headache for Obama? Some Democrats Slam White House Response - ABC News

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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    james carville, a cajun:

    "the political stupidity of this is just unbelievable that the president doesn't get down here in the middle of this, i have no idea why they didn't seize this thing, i have no idea why their attitude is so hands-offy, the president of the united states could have come down here, he could have been involved with the families, he could have commandeered research vessels in the gulf of mexico, he could have demanded a plan in anticipation of this, last nite i was on larry king with the former ceo of shell, they said they got 85% of this cleaned up in the gulf of saudi arabia, he could be commandeering tankers and making bp bring tankers in and clean this thing up, they could be deploying people to the coast right now, he could be with the corps of engineers and the coast guard with these people in plaquemines parish doing something about these regulations, these people are crying, they're begging for something down here and it just looks like he's not involved in this, man, and you gotta get down here and take control of this, put somebody in charge of this thing and get this thing moving, we're about to die down here, there's a thousand things he could be doing and he just needs to get down here and start doing something"

    BP Oil Spill Becoming Political Headache for Obama? Some Democrats Slam White House Response - ABC News
    And he is entitled to his opinion. AS much as I respect the guy, he is wrong in this case though. What is not opinion is whether or not cleanup work has begun. It is already the third most costly cleanup effort ever.
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    Re: Feds open criminal probe of Gulf oil spill

    Just a week before the Deepwater Horizon exploded, BP PLC asked regulators to approve three successive changes to its oil well over 24 hours, according to federal records reviewed by the Wall Street Journal.

    The unusual rapid-fire requests to modify permits reveal that BP was tweaking a crucial aspect of the well's design up until its final days.

    One of the design decisions outlined in the revised permits, drilling experts say, may have left the well more vulnerable to the blowout that occurred April 20, killing 11 workers and leaving crude oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico.

    The Minerals Management Service approved all the changes quickly, in one instance within five minutes of submission.

    BP's flurry of revisions and re-revisions stands out as uncommon. Of the more than 2,200 wells that have been drilled in the Gulf since 2004, only 5% have had multiple permit revisions submitted to MMS within one calendar day, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of MMS records.

    In only one other case, a 2005 well drilled in just 48 feet of water, has a company submitted three revisions within 24 hours, as happened on BP's well. BP's well was in nearly 5,000 feet of water, which has made dealing with the well far more complicated.

    MMS declined to comment, citing the ongoing investigation into the causes of the Deepwater Horizon disaster.
    who ya gonna sue?

    On April 14, at 8:34 p.m., BP informed the MMS that it planned to use the one-pipe method, using a single 7-inch-wide pipe for the whole length of the well. The MMS approved the permit at 8:13 the next morning, according to federal records.

    At 9:54 a.m. on April 15 BP filed another permit informing the MMS of a correction. Rather than using a 7-inch-wide pipe the whole way, it planned to run a tapered pipe that was wider at the top than at the bottom. This was approved by the MMS seven minutes later.

    Then, at 2:35 p.m., BP filed another revision. This one informed the MMS that it had "inadvertently" omitted mention of a section of pipe already in the well. Four and one-half minutes later, MMS approved this permit also.
    The two-pipe method was the safer option, according to many industry experts, because it would have provided an extra layer of protection against gas traveling up the outside of the well to the surface. Gene Beck, a longtime industry engineer and a professor at Texas A&M University, said the two-pipe method is "more or less the gold standard," especially for high-pressure wells such as the one BP was drilling.

    But the one-pipe option was easier and faster, likely taking a week less time than the two-pipe method. BP was spending about $1 million per day to operate the Deepwater Horizon.
    BP Revised Permits Before Blast - WSJ.com
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