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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    That may be the case to you, but I can assure you that most people who burn flags are doing so to protest something specific or they are doing it for shock value. I don't think they see it from the same perspective that you do.
    And I agree that is the problem they have. Its their own personal view of it that they only attest to what they are protesting at the time that is the problem. They don't look at it from a larger perspective than themselves.

    Because those principles remain whether the flag is burnt or not. Burning a flag does absolutely nothing to those principles. Just as the flag is a symbol for those principles, burning the flag is a symbol for protest. That doesn't offend me. I think a lot of people do it for shock value, which is silly to me. What would offend me, however, is if we lived in a country where that type of thing wasn't allowed.
    Again, second time, I never said I would outlaw it.

    Burning the flag of course disprespects those principles because it is the symbol of not only those principles but the history of this nation.

    Do you take the same stance of burning a solider in effigy or burning a cross? Are those only pieces of material as well?
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    I'm not going anywhere. I love my country. But at the same time, I do not have any irrational patriotism or nationalism. I am an internationalist and so therefore I do not believe in the flag nor any kind of nationalist flag and, as such, I will not condemn them being burned.
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Do you take the same stance of burning a solider in effigy or burning a cross? Are those only pieces of material as well?
    Nah, not really. To me both of those things are for the purpose of shock value and little more. And yes, those are pieces of material. The key word is "in effigy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    I'm not going anywhere. I love my country. But at the same time, I do not have any irrational patriotism or nationalism. I am an internationalist and so therefore I do not believe in the flag nor any kind of nationalist flag and, as such, I will not condemn them being burned.



    Really? So if someone came along and burned your neighbors flag you would have no problem with it because your a globalist extremist?
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Really? So if someone came along and burned your neighbors flag you would have no problem with it because your a globalist extremist?
    Neighbors flag, yes. Their own flag, I would laugh and walk away. No reason to give attention seekers what they want.
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Neighbors flag, yes. Their own flag, I would laugh and walk away. No reason to give attention seekers what they want.



    I agree, Freedom is a bitch, if it allows for idiots to thrive, so be it.
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I agree, Freedom is a bitch, if it allows for idiots to thrive, so be it.
    I always figured this was something that people miss. Flag burning is effective because people react strongly to it. Walk away and don't react, and you have taken away their reason for doing it.
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    I'm not going anywhere. I love my country. But at the same time, I do not have any irrational patriotism or nationalism. I am an internationalist and so therefore I do not believe in the flag nor any kind of nationalist flag and, as such, I will not condemn them being burned.
    I certainly believe the second part.
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Nah, not really. To me both of those things are for the purpose of shock value and little more. And yes, those are pieces of material. The key word is "in effigy".
    Then you are against the laws that ban cross burning?
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    Re: Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I always figured this was something that people miss. Flag burning is effective because people react strongly to it. Walk away and don't react, and you have taken away their reason for doing it.



    I don't think its effective at all these days.
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