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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It would seem that 30,000 to 100,000 people (protesters) are ill informed on the law. Regardless, the majority approve. If these people really believed that the law allowed police to ID anyone would they really be protesting? What would red flag an illegal immigration more than someone opposing a law that cracks down in illegal immigration?
    Yes if they were as "informed" as you are they wouldn't realize the law doesn't go into effect until the end of the year.

    Also thank you for that massive stereotype going on there, if we were all as "informed" as you are we wouldn't know that simply holding a certain political view isn't probable cause or reasonable suspicion of being an illegal immigrant.

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you support it, or oppose it?


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    In general, I support cracking down on illegal immigrants. What concerns me is the fact that they can demand papers from people whom they have a "reasonable suspicion" about. I guess that term is a little too vague for me and would probably differ from officer to officer. It comes off sounding more like a witch hunt than anything.

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    A police officer can pull someone over at any time and find a way to justify it.
    You're absolutely correct. Obviiously traffic laws can lead to "racial profiling". I believe we best do away with all of them due to possible abuse. Those cops can pull anyone over at any time and request to see their license and insurance papers. How ever did we let this go on for so long.
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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    In general, I support cracking down on illegal immigrants. What concerns me is the fact that they can demand papers from people whom they have a "reasonable suspicion" about. I guess that term is a little too vague for me and would probably differ from officer to officer. It comes off sounding more like a witch hunt than anything.

    Ok, fair enough. I think that anything that has to be done, should be, and we should start with closing the border for real this time.


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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, when thousands of people turn out for a protest against the law, it tells me that people are pretty split about it.
    Or it tells you they are illegals, or friends or families of illegals, or just looking for something to do on Memorial weekend......

    People are NOT split on this, and it will play into the landslide about to occur in November, especially in these states.

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Or it tells you they are illegals, or friends or families of illegals, or just looking for something to do on Memorial weekend......

    People are NOT split on this, and it will play into the landslide about to occur in November, especially in these states.
    And you are speculating without any proof. All I know is that thousands of people turned out for the protest. There is no evidence to suggest what you are asserting here.

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Or it tells you they are illegals, or friends or families of illegals, or just looking for something to do on Memorial weekend......

    People are NOT split on this, and it will play into the landslide about to occur in November, especially in these states.
    Ya all those illegals, ok they dont count, friends and families of illegals, aren't people at all and don't matter because you disagree. I know thats not what you meant to say but its what you are literally saying...

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post

    That said, it is their job to cover the news, not cover Obama's ass.

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    In general, I support cracking down on illegal immigrants. What concerns me is the fact that they can demand papers from people whom they have a "reasonable suspicion" about. I guess that term is a little too vague for me and would probably differ from officer to officer. It comes off sounding more like a witch hunt than anything.
    How is that different from something like "probable cause"? It's an officers job to make these sorts of judgment calls and are already using "reasonable suspicion" based on "unusual conduct" to justify limited warrantless searches (e.g. a pat down), stop vehicles, conduct body cavity searches at the border, etc. etc.

    I believe the most questionable aspect of the law is that it requires police to request documentation if they judge a "reasonable suspicion" - this can hinder law enforcement when the info you need to get on a violent (illegal) criminal must come from a relatively benign community of illegals.

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    Re: Thousands march in Phoenix to protest immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ya all those illegals, ok they dont count, friends and families of illegals, aren't people at all and don't matter because you disagree. I know thats not what you meant to say but its what you are literally saying...

    No they don't matter. They are here "ILLEGALLY"!!!!! Since when does one get to pick and choose which laws they want to follow eh?

    A country without defined borders, is NOT a country!


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