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Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

I am disputing the fact that IDF soldiers were killed, which they were not. and They were armed ONLY with paintball guns. It's pretty hard to kill 10 people if you were just armed with paintball guns...

the initial team had paint ball guns
when the 'innocent passengers began assaulting the contraband inspectors' the following IDF forces entered with REAL GUNS
but who would think of doing such a horrific thing?
I would have sent the first wave in with live ammo ready to kill at the initiation of violation
and I would have killed everyone on board
yet the IDF showed restraint
 
the initial team had paint ball guns
when the 'innocent passengers began assaulting the contraband inspectors' the following IDF forces entered with REAL GUNS
but who would think of doing such a horrific thing?
I would have sent the first wave in with live ammo ready to kill at the initiation of violation
and I would have killed everyone on board
yet the IDF showed restraint

You have no proof of that, the first team had only paintball guns? Prove it.

And why would you want to kill EVERYONE on board? Again, not all of them attacked the soldiers, not all of them were terrorists and there. were. no. weapons. on the damn ship. The stupid idiots that did attack the soldiers with whatever they could get their hands on were dumb to engage soldiers, they should have known were armed, but that hardly means that everyone on board should have been massacred.
 
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You have no proof of that, the first team had only paintball guns? Prove it.

And why would you want to kill EVERYONE on board? Again, not all of them attacked the soldiers, not all of them were terrorists and there. were. no. weapons. on the damn ship. The stupid idiots that did attack the soldiers with whatever they can get their hands on were dumb to engage soldiers they should have known were armed, but that hardly means that everyone on board should have been massacred.

proof is in the video of the event as it happened.
I have no problem killing them all because this happened as a result of a stated goal that all of the passengers supported.
maybe some idiots had no clue about how far it would go, but that is too bad and their lives mean nothing as a result
 
proof is in the video of the event as it happened.
I have no problem killing them all because this happened as a result of a stated goal that all of the passengers supported.
maybe some idiots had no clue about how far it would go, but that is too bad and their lives mean nothing as a result

The choppy video, that cannot show detail. Yep, great proof for your one sided argument.

Again what's with all the war-mongering, not everyone on that ship wanted to die, not all of them deserve to die. Not all of them attacked the soldiers. Not all of them were terrorists. The fact you advocate the mass killings of many quite possibly innocent people is beyond me.
 
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The choppy video, that cannot show detail. Yep, great proof for your one sided argument.

Again what's with all the war-mongering, not everyone on that ship wanted to die, not all of them deserve to die. Not all of them attacked the soldiers. Not all of them were terrorists. The fact you advocate the mass killings of many quite possibly innocent people is beyond me.


Oh spare us Jet. Was the solider being thrown overboard and the terrorists attacking the soldiers with weapons all CGI? :roll:

Talk about Lame dude. What, do you have a 15inch Tube monitor or something?
 
Oh spare us Jet. Was the solider being thrown overboard and the terrorists attacking the soldiers with weapons all CGI? :roll:

Talk about Lame dude. What, do you have a 15inch Tube monitor or something?

OH spare me Texmaster. What are you trying to say? That I'm denying anyone attacked the IDF Troops, cause I did not dispute that, and if you read what I've posted before, were I a soldier put on that deck, I would have probably opened fire too. So spare me your poor attempt at an insult.

I merely wish to convey that massacring the entire ship when the vast majority of it wasn't on the deck trying to Kill IDF troops, is a little far. Or are you advocating mass killing too now?
 
The choppy video, that cannot show detail. Yep, great proof for your one sided argument.

Again what's with all the war-mongering, not everyone on that ship wanted to die, not all of them deserve to die. Not all of them attacked the soldiers. Not all of them were terrorists. The fact you advocate the mass killings of many quite possibly innocent people is beyond me.

video is more than clear enough to show the 'innocent peace activists" clearly attacking the IDF without provacation
dodging this FACT is a clear Go **** Yourself
 
video is more than clear enough to show the 'innocent peace activists" clearly attacking the IDF without provacation
dodging this FACT is a clear Go **** Yourself

A well thought out argument, and totally not what we're arguing.

I am merely disputing your statement that the first team were ONLY armed with Paintball guns. Which you still have not proven.
 
OH spare me Texmaster. What are you trying to say? That I'm denying anyone attacked the IDF Troops, cause I did not dispute that, and if you read what I've posted before, were I a soldier put on that deck, I would have probably opened fire too. So spare me your poor attempt at an insult.

I merely wish to convey that massacring the entire ship when the vast majority of it wasn't on the deck trying to Kill IDF troops, is a little far. Or are you advocating mass killing too now?

massacring the entire ship results in only 10 deaths
you are truly retarded
 
what happened, and what I wish happened are two completely different subjects. intertwine them as you might wish
either way, the animals you support shoudl be put down
 
what happened, and what I wish happened are two completely different subjects. intertwine them as you might wish
either way, the animals you support shoudl be put down

You clearly have no wish to have a debate about any of this. You have managed to insult me personally twice. And have proved nothing you used as concrete facts, in advocation of the massacre of everyone on the ship.

If this is how these debates shall be waged... I have no interest in them and I should have known better then to get into any conversation involving Israel or it's governments actions.
 
OH spare me Texmaster. What are you trying to say? That I'm denying anyone attacked the IDF Troops, cause I did not dispute that, and if you read what I've posted before, were I a soldier put on that deck, I would have probably opened fire too. So spare me your poor attempt at an insult.

I merely wish to convey that massacring the entire ship when the vast majority of it wasn't on the deck trying to Kill IDF troops, is a little far. Or are you advocating mass killing too now?

LOL Wow is your knowledge so riddled with gaps.

They didn't fire on the terrorists FOR AN HOUR. AN HOUR Jet. And 10 people is hardly a massacre so put down the dictionary because you are using the wrong words again.

Unbelievable you blame the Israelis who came down one at a time, with painball guns, were atttacked FOR AN HOUR with weapons and stun grenades and finally had no choice but to respond with lethal force and you have the audacity not only to crtiiize them but blame poor quality of the video?

Go to the Jpost. Look at the video section for "war on flotilla ship" and explain how those long sticks in the hands of the terrorists are roses coming to greet the Israelis or that the solider who was thrown overboard simply slipped on his own :roll:

I'll even spoonfeed you. Look at the video 50 seconds in.
 
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LOL Wow is your knowledge so riddled with gaps.

They didn't fire on the terrorists FOR AN HOUR. AN HOUR Jet. And 10 people is hardly a massacre so put down the dictionary because you are using the wrong words again.

Unbelievebale you blame the Israelis who came down one at a time, with painball guns, were atttacked FOR AN HOUR with weapons and stun grenades and finally had no choice but to respond with lethal force and you have the audacity not only to crtiiize them but blame poor quality of the video?

Go to the Jpost. Look at the video section for "war on flotilla ship" and explain how those long sticks in the hands of the terrorists are roses coming to greet the Israelis or that the solider who was thrown overboard simply slipped on his own :roll:

Again you have refuted nothing of what I said. And I was not calling the 10 people a massacre... I was talking about Deejay's advocation that everyone on board SHOULD have been massacred. I did not dispute that the IDF troops had been attacked, I disputed that the first team were armed with ONLY paintball guns, which no one has proven.
 
Again you have refuted nothing of what I said. And I was not calling the 10 people a massacre... I was talking about Deejay's advocation that everyone on board SHOULD have been massacred.

Then you should be more careful with your words to me. You said:

I merely wish to convey that massacring the entire ship when the vast majority of it wasn't on the deck trying to Kill IDF troops, is a little far.

That isn't talking about a theorietical attack, thats talking about this attack itself.

I did not dispute that the IDF troops had been attacked, I disputed that the first team were armed with ONLY paintball guns, which no one has proven.

Who is claiming they only had paintguns? Who are you talking about??
 
Reffering to the ship people.

What he also said after you questioned him:

when the 'innocent passengers began assaulting the contraband inspectors' the following IDF forces entered with REAL GUNS

And that I don't know the answer to. Perhaps the first wave did not have any firearms and only the waves after arrived armed.
 
Reffering to the ship people.

any link I provide I am sure you would find incredible.
so I will let you find your 'facts' as they dribble into the terrorist supporting sites.
to any and all the videos and IDF reaction to the flotilla incursion made are clearly shown and easily found by anyone seeking the truth not an agenda
 
What he also said after you questioned him:

when the 'innocent passengers began assaulting the contraband inspectors' the following IDF forces entered with REAL GUNS

And that I don't know the answer to. Perhaps the first wave did not have any firearms and only the waves after arrived armed.

Well that's exactly the problem. He has not proven that point. ANd I doubt the IDF would send troops in with JUST painball guns if they had any suspicion the ship had weapons.
 
any link I provide I am sure you would find incredible.
so I will let you find your 'facts' as they dribble into the terrorist supporting sites.
to any and all the videos and IDF reaction to the flotilla incursion made are clearly shown and easily found by anyone seeking the truth not an agenda

The fact you wouldn't even try to prove it. Shows me that you simply cannot. See post 1095 too.
 
What he also said after you questioned him:

when the 'innocent passengers began assaulting the contraband inspectors' the following IDF forces entered with REAL GUNS

And that I don't know the answer to. Perhaps the first wave did not have any firearms and only the waves after arrived armed.

in anticipation of conflict, the IDF allegedly reported that their intial inspection forces borded teh flotilla with paint pellet guns. Only after the soldiers inspecting for contraband were attacked did soldiers with real weapons board the hostile ship and fire thier weapons
 
watch the youtube videos of the IDF repeling onto the ship with the animals on the ship attacking the soldiers

I watched the videos. And I'm afraid there is no evidence whatsoever that they were armed only with Paintballs guns. And once again are you honestly suggesting the IDF would send in troops to a ship they thought was so dangerous that they would arm them only with paintball guns? If they had suspicion it had weapons on it of the firearm type.
 
I watched the videos. And I'm afraid there is no evidence whatsoever that they were armed only with Paintballs guns. And once again are you honestly suggesting the IDF would send in troops to a ship they thought was so dangerous that they would arm them only with paintball guns? If they had suspicion it had weapons on it of the firearm type.

what you fail to be able to understand is that teh IDF tried to minimize any hostilities by Inspecting the boats unarmed.
the videos on Youtube and everywhere else do not show IDF with paintball guns. EVERY VIDEO show Israeli Inspectors being assaulted by animals
requiring armed militants to respond to a situation exploited by those who wanted to affect the situation
 
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