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Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

Not being signatory to a treaty does not mean a country is not subject to the laws within it. Israel can't simply take over a ship in international waters.
Why I thought that's exactly what it's meant. :rofl

Read digsbe's wiki article.

Edit: I mean spud meister's article, damn those pony avatars.
 
The US Navy boards ships in international waters quite frequently and inspects for illicit drugs, counterfeit commercial goods, black-market weapons, nuclear proliferation materials, and human trafficking (slave ships). I think donsutherland1 covered immunity from boarding quite well in Post #58.

The authority to do this is given on the basis that the ships boarded are committing illegal activities. A ship carrying humanitarian aid in international waters is not illegal.
 



Wrong they were carring food, and toys for children.
AND high powered slingshots, marbles, steel batons.

It is important to note that the majority of the 'activists' were not even resisting, it's only one ship we're talking about (The big Turkish ship)
 
AND high powered slingshots, marbles, steel batons.

It is important to note that the majority of the 'activists' were not even resisting, it's only one ship we're talking about (The big Turkish ship)

I'm sorry, do you type 'high powered slingshots, marbles, steel batons' with a serious face?
 
howzabout you have a looksee at what the soldiers found, rather than basing assertions on a propaganda piece



And you expect me to believe the Israeli account when they are in hot water already, so they are going too try to justify anything they do?

I tend to believe costumes instead of the Israeli account of what they supposedly found on the ship.
 
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I'm sorry, do you type 'high powered slingshots, marbles, steel batons' with a serious face?

Well actually typing is not the right term since I was doing Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V, but then again people always tell me I look serious.
 
I'm sorry, do you type 'high powered slingshots, marbles, steel batons' with a serious face?

:lol:

but seriously, when i was younger, i had a home made slingshot that could send a marble through a fence paleing, they could easily break bone or shatter the soldiers face plate.
 
And you expect me to beleive the Iserali account when they are in hot water already, so they are going too try to justfiy anything they do?

Do you realize that over 10 soldiers were injured, two of them seriously injured?

They were shot, stabbed, and brutally lynched by a big crowd.
 
And you expect me to beleive the Iserali account when they are in hot water already, so they are going too try to justfiy anything they do?

you're right, i'm sure Israels best naval commandos regualy carry slingshots and metal polls and bags of marbles in shopping bags when boarding supposedly peaceful ships :roll:
 
They easily can lie about this in order to justify actions, so I can not fully trust them, nor can I trust second hand accounts I can only trust I what I see from my first video, since it was at the scene just before this incident.

Those things are toys that I used to play with as a child, and the fact that Customs officials let them through with these items is, the reason why I need more information before I can take the official spin version as expected fact, since people can easily cover up their tracks just look at the USS Liberty for more reasons why I tend to not believe the official story, since during the time of the bush Administration documents came out that they thought it might have been a US ship, and still attacked it with out trying too find out, if it wasn't..
 
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I have often called Israel's tactics heavy-handed and needless, but in this instance, I have to side with Israel.

1) All Israel was demanding was that the shipments to Gaza be inspected. In the past, shipments have been diverted to Israel, which inspected them to make sure there were no weapons, then the shipments were sent into Gaza. Some shipments have been held up, but that is because weapons were found in them.

2) Also, when Israel boarded the main ship, their soldiers were immediately attacked, and the soldiers responded. This is what accounts for the deaths and injuries.

Let us not forget that the Palestinians have never recognized Israel's right to exist, and have never stopped planning and carrying out attacks on Israel. That does give Israel the right to inspect shipments in order to make sure that they consist of humanitarian supplies, and that no weapons are hidden among them. IMHO, that is not too much to ask for.
 
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They easily can lie about this in order to justfiy actions, so I can not fully trust them, nor can I trust second hand accounts I can only trust I what I see from my first video, since it was at the scene just before this incident.

I believe your video shows those peaceful activists lynching soldiers and attacking them with crowbars?
Besides, do you seriously believe the soldiers have shot themselves?
 
They easily can lie about this in order to justfiy actions, so I can not fully trust them, nor can I trust second hand accounts I can only trust I what I see from my first video, since it was at the scene just before this incident.

and it was obviously fair and unbiased, and showed every square centimetre of every object on the ship :roll:
 
Reports: Israeli ships attack aid flotilla, 2 dead - Yahoo! News

Two dead, confirmed.

This is a travesty. Israel shouldn't be able to get away with something like this but, knowing how international politics works, they probably will.

Edit: Israeli sources report 10-15 killed, 60 injured.

Hamas is nothing more then a bunch of Muslim pig Terrorists Israel has every right to defend it's self.
Too bad the ASSCLOWN obama won't defend our borders from Terrorists and Criminals
 
spud_meister I am not saying anything wasn't baised in retropecst I'm however saying I just need more infomation as to why customs would allow shuch items in the first place on borad ships that were going towards Gaza..
 
Hamas is nothing more then a bunch of Muslim pig Terrorists Israel has every right to defend it's self.
Too bad the ASSCLOWN obama won't defend our borders from Terrorists and Criminals

And fail we name them a terroist orgztion during the time of the election that we forced them too go throught, because Iseral didn't like how the election went.
 
For me there looks to be no justification for Israeli Commandos to board the ship, lets alone whilst in International waters.
Trying to justify whether the appropriate level of force was used is immaterial because of this point. The very fact that Israeli troops were fighting against 'persons with knifes/bars and a ceased weapon does in NO way suggest those on board were expecting, or preparing for, some kind of battle. If they were indeed ready for a fight i,m sure the protesters would have been appropriately armed.
Also, another PR disaster by the Israeli Government.

Paul

There was at least one assult rifle firing on the soldiers, 2 pistols were grabed from the soldiers and used against them as well. The first soldier who slide down the rope was jumped by 4-6 people and thrown over the bar to the bottom deck, their own footage clearly shows people with crawbars preforming a lynch in a soldier, the UAV footage shows a molotov cocktail thrown on the soldiers, two soldiers are suffering from gunshot wounds, two from fructured skull. Those weren't harmless peace activists
 
Hamas is nothing more then a bunch of Muslim pig Terrorists Israel has every right to defend it's self.
Too bad the ASSCLOWN obama won't defend our borders from Terrorists and Criminals

I wondered when Obama would get dragged into this. :roll:

He has nothing to do with the topic.
 
There was at least one assult rifle firing on the soldiers, 2 pistols were grabed from the soldiers and used against them as well. The first soldier who slide down the rope was jumped by 4-6 people and thrown over the bar to the bottom deck, their own footage clearly shows people with crawbars preforming a lynch in a soldier, the UAV footage shows a molotov cocktail thrown on the soldiers, two soldiers are suffering from gunshot wounds, two from fructured skull. Those weren't harmless peace activists

Which could easily be edit to make the actives look bad, and the fact an 85 year holocaust survivor was aboard the frotlia at the time of this incident is another reason I doubt the claims of the spin version that the IDF says..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/31/gaza-flotilla-attacked-israel_n_595239.html

It was botched raid in international waters in another thing I find that you are messing as well. This fortilla was highly publicized, and clearly posed no threat too the security of the Israelite people they had no right too attack the ship in international water which would be consider piracy by international law.

I think this was somehow a botched show of force, but it backed fired on them, or they new externally what was on those ship, and are trying too do damage control with the Internationale community like they did with the USS Liberty. This smells just like a new US Liberty in my own opinion.
 
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