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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Apocalypse has brought out some excellent points that are very informative. Basically this flottila was not a relief effort at all. It was a planned provocation of israel for propaganda purposes. Every effort to facilitate the aid to Gaza was rejected. This in itself tells me that aid was not the intent it was to provoke a confrontation with Israel. And thats what they got. Now comes the propaganda which unfortunatly will be believed by some who have an anti Israel agenda.
    There is some truth to this. It is almost certain that a confrontation was desired. I suspect that it might have been in Israel's best interest to not give them a confrontation as they did. Doing exactly what your opponent wants is not usually good tactics.

    Further, just because the flotilla was after a conflict does not mean that Israel did not handle the assault poorly. The truth in that regards remains to be seen. I think the odds favor a proper handling by the Israeli solders, but that is guesswork, not fact.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Once more, every individual arrives at the truth at a different timing, clearly the doctors taking care of a mortally-wounded person know that he's dead before anyone else does.
    By the way, the Flotilla might be in Ashdod and not in Gaza, but the humanitarian aid is on its way to Gaza and that should have been the entire event were there was no attempt to kill the soldiers doing the interception.
    Yes, I was aware of that. The cargo will be inspected and moved to Gaza.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is some truth to this. It is almost certain that a confrontation was desired. I suspect that it might have been in Israel's best interest to not give them a confrontation as they did. Doing exactly what your opponent wants is not usually good tactics.
    This was the topic of many of the arguments in Israel before the interception.
    Many have said that Israel should just let the flotilla pass, as Olmert did in 2008 when he was the PM, but others have said that it would give legitimization to the ships, would attract more and more of them, and would pretty much break the siege placed by Egypt and Israel on the Gaza Strip.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Also, another PR disaster by the Israeli Government.
    Perhaps.

    On the other hand, PR/PC is not the primary concern when hot lead is whizzing by your ears.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    This was the topic of many of the arguments in Israel before the interception.
    Many have said that Israel should just let the flotilla pass, as Olmert did in 2008 when he was the PM, but others have said that it would give legitimization to the ships, would attract more and more of them, and would pretty much break the siege placed by Egypt and Israel on the Gaza Strip.
    I don't think letting the ships pass would be a good idea either, for exactly the reasons you list. There are other options, both for boarding and for moving ships that don't want to be moved.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Perhaps.

    On the other hand, PR/PC is not the primary concern when hot lead is whizzing by your ears.
    Its not a judgement of the troops on the ground, more an indictment of decision makers who placed them in such a cauldron.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    The organizers of this supposed humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people where the IHH. The IHH has ties to Global Jihad, al Qaeda, and the terrorist organization Hamas. They have also been involved in the trafficing of illegal arms.

    Here is a link that provides info on the organization International Humanitaire Hilfsorganization (IHH).

    IHH - a Turkish humanitarian relief fund with a radical Islamic anti-Western orientation.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Its not a judgement of the troops on the ground, more an indictment of decision makers who placed them in such a cauldron.

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    No one has seriously considered that the soldiers are risking their life by boarding a ship of "peaceful activists", mind you.
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    Last edited by Apocalypse; 05-31-10 at 11:49 AM.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The organizers of this supposed humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people where the IHH. The IHH has ties to Global Jihad, al Qaeda, and the terrorist organization Hamas. They have also been involved in the trafficing of illegal arms.

    Here is a link that provides info on the organization International Humanitaire Hilfsorganization (IHH).

    IHH - a Turkish humanitarian relief fund with a radical Islamic anti-Western orientation.
    Psst, Sgt, I'm going to whisper this so nobody else notices, but I posted this same link already.

    Like any other attempt to provide proper context, it had no effect on those who only wish to waggle fingers.
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