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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    At the current time, some of those facts are in dispute. When you accept one side explanation of events without considering the other, and present it as fact, you are in fact, spinning. We do not yet know all that happened on the boat. Till then, it is premature to judge. Calling another view "propaganda", when all the facts are not in, is very much spinning, and demonizing some one who has a different view. Not good.
    What complete bullsh!t. All you are doing is indulging in turnspeak where you try to confuse others into believing it is the extremely biased rhetorec that must be protected, while any attempt to challenge the inherent bias is "demonizing".

    For anybody who actually wishes to understand a little something instead of just posturing, however, this details a bit of the organization in question.

    IHH - a Turkish humanitarian relief fund with a radical Islamic anti-Western orientation.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Apoc, can you answer how YOU are able to distinguish, at this stage, who are the thugs and who are the protesters?

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Apoc, can you answer how YOU are able to distinguish, at this stage, who are the thugs and who are the protesters?

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    Certainly the thugs would be the minority on the one ship that has physically attacked the soldiers trying to kill them.
    The protesters would be the majority that has complied with the arrest order/has resisted passively.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Actually, its a term used in the military. Please refrain from showing your ignorance on matters you know little about, it only aids in derailing the thread.

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    and, of course, this statement will also go unchallenged by the same nattering individuals who actually do know nothing.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That's obviously correct, but do remember that there is only one truth, and that while some individuals are not yet aware of the facts that point at that truth, others already are.
    Considering that the only people who know the truth are the ones there, and even they are not necessarily going to have an accurate view of events(ask cops about getting testimony from witnesses, and how several people will see the same event differently), the whole "points to the truth" thing is premature.

    About the only truths know for sure right now is that the Flotilla is not now headed to Gaza, and that this is another PR nightmare for Israel.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    and, of course, this statement will also go unchallenged by the same nattering individuals who actually do know nothing.
    Irony, you are good at it.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Apocalypse has brought out some excellent points that are very informative. Basically this flottila was not a relief effort at all. It was a planned provocation of israel for propaganda purposes. Every effort to facilitate the aid to Gaza was rejected. This in itself tells me that aid was not the intent it was to provoke a confrontation with Israel. And thats what they got. Now comes the propaganda which unfortunatly will be believed by some who have an anti Israel agenda.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Considering that the only people who know the truth are the ones there, and even they are not necessarily going to have an accurate view of events(ask cops about getting testimony from witnesses, and how several people will see the same event differently), the whole "points to the truth" thing is premature.

    About the only truths know for sure right now is that the Flotilla is not now headed to Gaza, and that this is another PR nightmare for Israel.
    Once more, every individual arrives at the truth at a different timing, clearly the doctors taking care of a mortally-wounded person know that he's dead before anyone else does.
    By the way, the Flotilla might be in Ashdod and not in Gaza, but the humanitarian aid is on its way to Gaza and that should have been the entire event were there was no attempt to kill the soldiers doing the interception.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Now comes the propaganda which unfortunatly will be believed by some who have an anti Israel agenda.
    With various official representatives of this website doing their part by attacking those who object to the propaganda of the Israel haters.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Irony, you are good at it.
    Thanks for confirming my original observation.
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