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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Reporters that are returning are know saying that IDF fired first at people on the ship.

    Witness have spoken out
    Devil is always in the details. What/which reporters....??



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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Update: Thousands of dollars in cash were found in the pockets of the dead Turkish citizens that have attacked the Israeli soldiers.

    There is a suspicion that those are mercenaries paid for to attack the Israeli soldiers when they board the ship.

    Besides that, Israel has begun its investigation of the event.
    Is there any news as to what the persons on board ship have to say? Or is there still a communication shutdown...

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    When did Pat Buchanan join the forum?

    See Israel is one of our closest allies. What is the point of having an ally if we do nothing when they are in trouble?

    Forgive me if I don't side with people who support Palestinians who cheered 9.11 and attack Israeli civilians.
    Surely, your real allies are those fighting alongside US troops in Afghanistan, aren't they? Those would be Turkish troops BTW. When was the last time Israeli troops fought alongside the US?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Devil is always in the details. What/which reporters....??



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    The reporters that were their on the ship

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Is there any news as to what the persons on board ship have to say? Or is there still a communication shutdown...

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    I have put the witness statments up from the raw story......

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Ok I laughed out loud on that one.
    I'm not expecting honest or open answers from you, so I don't care.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And there are people who will always claim Israel is the only agressor. Whats your point?
    The point is that some of those whom always defend Israel will see any critique of their actions as being "against Israel". Some may be so stupid as to believe that if you say anything against Israel that you must hate Israel and want it to fail and always support Palestine and can't see both sides as being wrong. Pretty stupid right? I know, but they exist. Israel is not an innocent, nor is Palestine. When all these people start jumping up and down screaming Israel this and that, they should be reminded that they are in this position partly because of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Obviously you have never met anyone in the Mossad. They are hardly the scrawnmy smarmy kid.
    That's why it's called analogy.

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    Can you even point to one time where Israel has mouthed off saying any action they take they don't have to worry about the consequences because America will protect them?

    Where do you get these incredible dishonest statements from?
    Are you kidding? You think that they would have done half the **** they have against the Palestinian people if we didn't have their back? Seriously? They can act with impudence because they think America is in their corner, and they do. Most countries who act like this towards innocent civilians tend to get our dismay, not our backing. We are the bigger brother, we're the tough guy that the others come running to for protection. Well, if they keep treating people the way the do, and keep thinking nothing of it; then they'll have to face they're own damned consequence. Which includes being cut off. No more of our military tech, no more of our support. The lot of them can sit in the corner and figure things out for themselves, we'll deal with them when they've stopped this incessant fighting.

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    I know you don't like it that he is right and you are wrong but I can't help that.
    Jefferson is often right, and is so in this case as well. I don't want to be drawn into other people's wars. If they start them, they can finish them. Got our own **** to worry about.

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    But for you to say you don't support either side was really amusing and I thank you for it.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Surely, your real allies are those fighting alongside US troops in Afghanistan, aren't they? Those would be Turkish troops BTW. When was the last time Israeli troops fought alongside the US?
    LOL You are advocating Israel send troops to a Muslim country? Please tell me you aren't that demented.

    Israel blew up the reactor in Syria which would have been a direct threat to the US if it was allowed to continue not to mention destroying Saddam's nuclear reactor as well.

    And lets not forget the countless Israeli inventions that our troops use every day in the theatre. So yes Israel is a fantastic ally and for you to suggest the only way they can be an ally is to send troops to a country that would be 100% hostile to them is foolish at best.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    The reporters that were their on the ship
    Saw about a 10 minute clip this morning from an al Jazeera reporter that was travelling with the flotilla ship. Boy, he really let Israel have it....!!!



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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not expecting honest or open answers from you, so I don't care.
    There was nothing honest about your claim. Hense my laughter.

    The point is that some of those whom always defend Israel will see any critique of their actions as being "against Israel". Some may be so stupid as to believe that if you say anything against Israel that you must hate Israel and want it to fail and always support Palestine and can't see both sides as being wrong. Pretty stupid right? I know, but they exist. Israel is not an innocent, nor is Palestine. When all these people start jumping up and down screaming Israel this and that, they should be reminded that they are in this position partly because of themselves.
    I ask again, what is the point of all of that? Are there extremists on both sides? Yes. Can you move on now?

    That's why it's called analogy.
    You mean false analogy. I point you to the Six-Day War as proof of Israel's fighting skill. They don't play second fiddle to us and its insulting you would pretend otherwise.

    Are you kidding? You think that they would have done half the **** they have against the Palestinian people if we didn't have their back? Seriously? They can act with impudence because they think America is in their corner, and they do. Most countries who act like this towards innocent civilians tend to get our dismay, not our backing. We are the bigger brother, we're the tough guy that the others come running to for protection. Well, if they keep treating people the way the do, and keep thinking nothing of it; then they'll have to face they're own damned consequence. Which includes being cut off. No more of our military tech, no more of our support. The lot of them can sit in the corner and figure things out for themselves, we'll deal with them when they've stopped this incessant fighting.
    So you can't give one example to back up that laughable claim Got it.

    Jefferson is often right, and is so in this case as well. I don't want to be drawn into other people's wars. If they start them, they can finish them. Got our own **** to worry about.
    Then I guess you were against going to war with the Nazis right? They never attacked us.

    Once you decide to be intellectually honest, come back and maybe we can have a meaningful conversation. Till then, just run around thanking Apocalypse's posts.
    When you decide to be honest about your arguments and your beliefs, perhaps we can have a debate but when you deny your own words and your own positions, there is nothing I can do about that.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    This is absolutely disturbing.
    There would be only two ships coming however, and hence there would be no need to board them on international waters, since there is no chance of them making it to the port of Gaza as the fears were for the previous flotilla.
    If Israel boards the ships it should do so on Gaza's territorial waters, and if the Turks open fire then Israel must do what it must, however unfortuante and dangerous this is.
    So far, I have seen no news story on that issue. Hopefully, the rumors are without foundation.

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